177- KALEIDOSCOPE WEDNESDAY- STIGMA AND SHAME ARE ONE IN THE SAME177- KALEIDOSCOPE WEDNESDAY- STIGMA AND SHAME ARE ONE IN THE SAME
Ashes to Awesome Podcast - Rising in Recovery
Chris Horder and Ryan Bathgate discuss the intertwined burdens of stigma and shame in addiction, advocating for compassion and systemic change.
1:07:33•11 Oct 2023
Stigma and Shame: Unraveling the Hidden Burdens of Addiction
Episode Overview
- A deep exploration of stigma and shame surrounding addiction
- Insights into the transgenerational impact of societal stigma
- Empowering perspectives on recovery and community support
- Intersection of cultural constructs and systemic change
- Professional expertise combined with lived experiences
“Stigma leaves us feeling lonely and I'm sorry. Stigma also tells the loved one that they're not doing enough or they're doing too much or they're enabling or they're not enabling. There's just so much ambiguity to what the loved one... It's me too, man. Yeah. Yeah. But let's not point, let's not blame that on the person who's suffering an addiction. Like everything you have is tied into this. Everything, you know, your entire life becomes this person getting better who doesn't want help or can't seem to figure it out and what do you do? So like, uh, she'd asked me like, I let him in to have a shower. He's not allowed to stay at our house. At the end of his shower, he tried to hang out. And I asked him, I told him he can't be here, he's got to go. Am I a horrible person? Oh, you know, and my response was absolutely. You did everything that you could do while maintaining a trustful integral boundary that will pay off when the time comes. Yeah, you showed some heart, you know, but you stuck to your boundary. It wasn't like that. This is a long period of time that she had to come to a boundary that she had to set for the sanity of herself and the rest of her family. So for me, I'm like that is a perfect example of using the love model in a way to support your loved one without having to really decompose your own family or your own personal values or family values. So you're still strengthening. So what that person is going through, what that person is going through is plenty. Because that person is already like, they're already seriously questioning their own, you know, whatever, right? Oh, yeah, you know, yeah, we don't need anybody adding to that, just don't. Right. And piss off with it, quite frankly, you know. And it's a passionate subject for me.”
Stigma and shame often walk hand in hand, creating invisible chains that weigh heavily on those struggling with addiction. In this episode of 'Ashes to Awesome', host Chris Horder, also known as Chuck LaFlange, sits down with Ryan Bathgate to dissect these complex issues. Chris and Ryan dive into the unfair societal judgments that not only affect individuals battling addiction but also their loved ones.
They challenge the outdated 'moral model' that wrongly labels addiction as a moral failing rather than a health issue. Through their heartfelt conversation, Chris and Ryan reveal how stigma and shame can perpetuate a cycle of silence and isolation, making recovery even more challenging. They discuss the need for compassion, community support, and systemic change to truly address these issues. With personal anecdotes and professional insights, this episode offers a raw and honest look at the emotional toll of addiction.
It's a must-listen for anyone seeking to understand the deeper layers of stigma and how we can collectively work towards a more inclusive and supportive society.
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