Casey Grover, MD, FACEP

Addiction Medicine Made Easy

Casey Grover, MD, FACEP, FASAM

  • A Deep Dive into Urine Drug Testing

A Deep Dive into Urine Drug Testing

Monday 30th June 2025

Explore the intricacies of urine drug testing with expert Matthew Rutledge. Learn about detection methods and emerging trends in addiction treatment.
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Addiction Medicine Made Easy
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Casey Grover, MD, FACEP
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Urine Drug Testing: Insights and Innovations

Episode Overview

  • Different types of urine drug tests explored.
  • Mass spectrometry for accurate substance detection.
  • Developing tests for novel substances takes months.
  • The impact of drug testing on addiction treatment.
  • Challenges with false positives in urine drug tests.
I am a smarter human being after talking to you, and I will be smarter with my patients next week in the office when I explain urine drug testing to them.
In this insightful episode of the Addiction Medicine Made Easy Podcast, Dr. Casey Grover interviews Matthew Rutledge, founder of MD Labs, to delve into the complexities of urine drug testing. Over the years, urine drug testing has become an essential tool for clinicians in the field of addiction treatment, providing critical insights into the substances patients are using.
This episode sheds light on the different types of drug tests available, including basic immunoassay cups and advanced techniques such as liquid and gas chromatography with mass spectrometry. Matthew Rutledge emphasizes the accuracy of mass spectrometry, which can identify substances down to nanogram levels, making it a vital component in modern toxicology. The conversation also covers the process of developing tests for novel substances, which can take up to four months.
This involves acquiring standards and validating tests across hundreds of specimens to ensure reliability. Throughout the discussion, Dr. Grover and Rutledge address common myths related to urine drug tests, such as the impact of poppy seeds on test results. Moreover, Rutledge shares insights on the challenges labs face in keeping up with rapidly changing drug supplies. He highlights the importance of collaboration among labs and healthcare providers to stay informed about new substances and trends.
The episode concludes with a heartfelt message from Dr. Grover, thanking healthcare providers for their life-saving work in addiction treatment and stressing the importance of awareness and action in combating addiction. This episode not only provides valuable information on the technical aspects of urine drug testing but also underscores the importance of these tests in shaping effective addiction treatment strategies. With the support of organizations like the Montage Health Foundation and Central Coast Overdose Prevention, Dr.
Grover continues to educate and inform listeners on the critical issues surrounding addiction.
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