CAMH, Dr. David Gratzer: Physician and Educator at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health

Quick Takes: A podcast by physicians, for physicians

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  • An innovation in perinatal mental healthcare with Daisy Singla

An innovation in perinatal mental healthcare with Daisy Singla

Wednesday 28th May 2025

Explore how Daisy Singla's SUMMIT trial is reshaping perinatal mental healthcare with innovative approaches like telemedicine and task sharing.
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Quick Takes: A podcast by physicians, for physicians
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CAMH, Dr. David Gratzer: Physician and Educator at the Centre for Addiction and Mental Health
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Revolutionising Perinatal Mental Health: Insights from Daisy Singla

Episode Overview

  • Telemedicine and non-specialists can deliver effective psychotherapy.
  • Task sharing bridges the gap in mental health treatment access.
  • Behavioural activation therapy reduces depression and anxiety symptoms.
  • Innovative approaches can save healthcare costs significantly.
  • Strong partnerships enhance diverse recruitment for trials.
The mantra of behavioural activation in a nutshell is, in order to feel differently, you need to do differently.
Imagine a world where perinatal depression is tackled head-on, not just by psychiatrists but also by nurses and midwives. That's the vision painted in this episode of Quick Takes, featuring Daisy Singla, co-lead of the SUMMIT trial. Daisy, an associate professor at the University of Toronto, shares her groundbreaking work in expanding access to psychotherapy for pregnant and postpartum women.
With a charming blend of science and practicality, she discusses the potential of telemedicine and task sharing to make psychotherapy more accessible. Dr. David Gratzer, the host, kicks off the conversation by congratulating Daisy on her paper published in Nature Medicine – a feat as impressive as finding a unicorn in your garden! The discussion dives into the nitty-gritty of the SUMMIT trial, which explored whether non-specialists could deliver psychotherapy as effectively as trained professionals.
Spoiler alert: they can, and telemedicine works just as well as face-to-face sessions. The episode doesn't shy away from the controversial topic of task shifting, questioning whether less-trained individuals can step up to fill the mental health gap. Daisy confidently explains that their goal isn't to replace specialists but to bridge the treatment divide. The trial's results show promising reductions in symptoms of depression and anxiety, even among those with severe conditions.
Daisy's enthusiasm for making psychotherapy accessible to all shines through as she outlines her vision for a tiered mental health system, where guided self-help and brief interventions are the first line of defence. Her optimism is infectious, leaving you pondering the future of mental healthcare. So, if you're curious about how psychotherapy can be scaled up without relying on Silicon Valley gadgets, this episode is a must-listen.
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