Episode 73: A Minister’s Take on the 12 Steps, with John OrtbergEpisode 73: A Minister’s Take on the 12 Steps, with John Ortberg
Addiction and the Family
We interview acclaimed minister and author John Ortberg in a wonderful conversation about the 12 Steps, the nature of faith, and how spirituality plays such a vital part in so many people's recovery.
54:36•23 Jan 2026
Faith and Recovery: A Minister's Perspective on the 12 Steps
Episode Overview
- Spirituality can be a vital component in recovery.
- The 12 Steps have historical roots in Christian practices.
- Desperation can be a catalyst for spiritual awakening.
- Honesty is crucial for effective recovery.
- Community support is essential for sustained sobriety.
“"God's address is at the end of your rope."”
What drives someone to seek a life without alcohol? This episode of 'Addiction and the Family' brings you an enlightening chat with acclaimed minister and author John Ortberg, who shares his unique perspective on the 12 Steps and their connection to faith. Ortberg explores how spirituality plays a crucial role in recovery, offering insights that bridge the gap between religious beliefs and addiction recovery.
He highlights the historical roots of the 12 Steps within the church and discusses how these steps can be a life-giving framework for anyone seeking change. Ortberg doesn't shy away from the tough questions, like why some people struggle with the concept of a higher power, or how to reconcile long-held beliefs with the realities of addiction. He even delves into the concept of 'the gift of desperation'—a surprising catalyst for spiritual awakening and recovery.
Throughout the conversation, you'll find anecdotes and wisdom that make the 12 Steps relatable, whether you're deeply religious or not. Casey Arrillaga, the host, complements this dialogue with his own experiences in recovery, adding layers of depth to the discussion. Whether you're a family member of someone in recovery or exploring sobriety yourself, this episode is packed with relatable moments and practical advice. So, are you ready to explore how faith and recovery intertwine?
Could spirituality be the missing link in your journey to sobriety?

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