Understanding Shame Through DBT with Dr. Kiki Fehling
Episode Overview
Dr. Kiki Fehling discusses the differences between shame and guilt. The role of DBT in coping with shame and mental health challenges. Exploring personal experiences with shame and its impact. Making DBT skills accessible outside traditional therapy settings. Addressing misconceptions about DBT certification requirements.
Shame can feel like there's no separation from it and you. That is where shame gets so sticky.
In this episode of the Bold Beautiful Borderline Podcast, host Sara engages in a thoughtful discussion with Dr. Kiki Fehling, a licensed psychologist and expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT). The episode delves into the complex emotions of shame and guilt, exploring their causes and the ways in which individuals can cope with these feelings using DBT skills. Dr.
Fehling, who has transitioned from traditional therapy to dissemination of DBT skills through books, social media, and speaking engagements, emphasizes the importance of making mental health resources accessible to a wider audience. She acknowledges the challenges faced by those who cannot afford or access therapy and shares her personal journey in overcoming shame, informed by her experiences as a queer, neurodivergent individual.
The conversation highlights the distinction between DBT skills and the comprehensive DBT therapy, noting that while certification as a DBT therapist is rigorous and expensive, teaching DBT skills can still be impactful without formal credentials. This accessibility is crucial for those struggling with dysregulation and mental health challenges, offering hope and practical strategies for improvement.
Sara shares her own experiences with shame, particularly in the context of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), and how DBT has played a significant role in her personal growth. Both Sara and Dr. Fehling emphasize the importance of lived experiences in enhancing therapeutic skills and creating meaningful connections with those seeking help. Overall, the episode is both informative and empathetic, providing listeners with valuable insights into the nature of shame and the power of DBT skills in fostering resilience and healing.