Mess it Up Show 428 - ConcordMess it Up Show 428 - Concord
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Luke Kelley rejoins the show, this time with is n…
31:16•16 Jun 2026
Mess It Up Show 428 – Finding Concord and Calm in the Chaos
Episode Overview
- Peace is more than the absence of conflict; it can be a steady inner calm even when circumstances are chaotic.
- Joy and peace are closely linked but not identical, and both can be available at all times through a growing trust in God.
- Letting go of pride and surrendering control can open the door to deeper peace, especially in recovery.
- Simple phrases and clichés like “let go and let God” can act as anchors that bring you back to peace in difficult moments.
- Being a peacemaker suggests an active role in building harmony with others rather than contributing to division.
“"The default option is peace and joy… we’re the ones running away."”
Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? Mess It Up Show 428 brings back guest Luke Kelley, this time with his name spelt right and a live “audience of one”, for a warm, funny and honest chat about peace as part of the ongoing Fruit of the Spirit series.
The bowtie-wearing host Paul and Luke kick off with the Word of the Week, “Concord” – a fancy way of saying agreement and harmony – and use it as a springboard into a much deeper look at peace. They talk about the difference between “worldly peace” (no arguments, no war, everything calm on the outside) and the inner, spiritual peace that “passes understanding”.
Luke links peace closely with joy, seeing them as “twins in a family”, while still pointing out that peace feels more like calm than excitement. For anyone in recovery or wrestling with anxiety, fear or control, this conversation lands close to home. Luke keeps coming back to trust in God as a way back to peace after life throws “curveballs” at work or in relationships.
Paul shares how surrender and letting go of pride helped him experience a peace he “still can’t explain” during a very dark season of his life. They also unpack three kinds of peace: peace with God, inner peace, and peace with other people – and why being a “peacemaker” suggests we can actively build calmer, healthier relationships instead of stirring up division.
Along the way there’s playful banter about clichés like “let go and let God”, the song “Peace Be Still”, and the challenge of actually living this stuff out day to day. If you’re craving more calm in recovery and wondering whether peace is really possible in messy circumstances, this one might give you a few questions to chew on: what would it look like to let go, trust a bit more, and step towards Concord in your own life?
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