Jesse Mogle

From Sobriety To Recovery: An Addiction Recovery Podcast

Jesse Mogle

  • Substance vs. Process/Behavior Addictions

Substance vs. Process/Behavior Addictions

Friday 20th February 2026

Explore the cycle of substance vs. behavioural addictions with Jesse Mogle. Learn how rituals drive these patterns and discover steps for real change.
45 minutes
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From Sobriety To Recovery: An Addiction Recovery Podcast
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Jesse Mogle
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Sobriety Toolkit
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Breaking Down Substance and Behavioural Addictions

Episode Overview

  • Addictions can manifest through substances or behaviours.
  • Both types follow a cycle: cue, craving, response, reward.
  • Rituals play a crucial role in maintaining addictive behaviours.
  • Recognising these patterns is the first step towards change.
  • Smartphones contribute significantly to behavioural addictions.
"The brain starts shifting before the substance or the behaviour, so today we're breaking down two routes to the same destination."
Ever wondered how addiction can manifest in different ways? This episode breaks down the often-overlooked distinction between substance and behavioural addictions. Jesse Mogle takes listeners on a journey through the ritualistic nature of both types of addictions, highlighting how the cycle of cue, craving, response, and reward operates in each case. From the allure of opening an app to the anticipation of a drink, Jesse explores how our brains are wired to seek these 'hits' through various means.
You'll learn about the 'Six P's'—Planning, Procure, Prepare, Permission, Perform, and Protect—that make these patterns evident in real life. With a mix of personal anecdotes and broader insights, Jesse sheds light on how recognising these cycles can lead to real change. Whether you're dealing with a substance addiction or find yourself endlessly scrolling through social media, this episode offers valuable insights into how these behaviours can take hold and how you can begin to break free.
So, are you ready to recognise the cycles in your life and make a change?
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