Billy and Jason

Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast

Billy and Jason

  • 96: What Does Being Clean Really Mean? (Sort Of)

96: What Does Being Clean Really Mean? (Sort Of)

Sunday 15th August 2021

Billy and Jason dive into what it means to be 'clean' in recovery, exploring medication-assisted treatment, stigma, and personal experiences.
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Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast
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Recovery Reimagined
Family Recovery from Addiction
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Defining 'Clean' in Recovery: Different Views and Realities

I think both of those opinions could exist and it doesn't ruin the legitimacy, like you're talking about, of our program.
Ever wondered what it truly means to be 'clean' in recovery? In this engaging episode of 'Recovery (Sort Of) - The Podcast', hosts Billy and Jason tackle the complex and often debated topic of what being clean really entails. They explore questions that many in the recovery community grapple with: Does being clean mean complete abstinence from all substances, including caffeine and nicotine? Or does it mean avoiding only certain drugs?
What about medication-assisted treatment (MAT) like Suboxone or methadone—does that count as being clean, or is it seen differently? Billy and Jason dive into these questions, sharing personal stories and differing viewpoints. Jason recounts his own experience of being told he wasn't truly clean because he still smoked cigarettes, despite his abstinence from drugs and alcohol.
This episode also touches on the controversial topic of 'cleanliness policing' within recovery groups, where individuals are judged based on their substance use, even if they are otherwise sober. The hosts emphasize the importance of individualized recovery plans, arguing that what works for one person might not work for another. They also discuss the impact of language and stigma in the recovery community, exploring how terms like 'dirty' or 'using' can be harmful and counterproductive.
Billy shares his journey of finding a spiritual connection through the program, highlighting how spirituality can play a crucial role in one's recovery process. Throughout the episode, Billy and Jason encourage listeners to rethink rigid definitions of being clean and to focus instead on what helps individuals stay sober and healthy. They stress that recovery is a deeply personal journey, and different approaches can be valid and effective.
Tune in to this thought-provoking episode for a deeper understanding of the diverse perspectives on what it means to be clean in recovery.
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