106: Lean into Clean with Jarvis Smith - Episode 106106: Lean into Clean with Jarvis Smith - Episode 106
UK Health Radio Podcast
Jarvis Smith talks with Thor Arsend about using social media, business and vipassana meditation to challenge existing systems and build a kinder, more conscious society. Their conversation blends personal stories with reflections on revolution, authenticity and following the heart.
48:09•14 Oct 2026
Revolution, Meditation and Millions of Followers: Thor Arsend’s Call to a New Earth
Episode Overview
- True impact on social media comes from authenticity and speaking about what is most alive and emotionally charged within you, rather than chasing trends.
- Thor argues that current global systems are shaped by people who lack genuine care, so those with heart and conscience need to organise just as strongly to build alternatives.
- He distinguishes between viral content that numbs people and content that gently reorganises someone’s view of reality, aiming always to leave people seeing the world more clearly.
- Vipassana meditation and 10-day silent retreats are presented as powerful ways to reset, face oneself honestly and create change from the inside out.
- Thor encourages people to trust their heart, accept that life is inherently uncertain, and commit to playing their unique role in a wider shift towards a more balanced society.
“We cannot create change unless we become that change first.”
What drives someone to seek a life that’s cleaner, kinder and more conscious? This episode of Lean into Clean brings together climate concern, social media savvy and deep spiritual practice in a way that feels both grounded and bold. Host Jarvis Smith chats with guest Thor Arsend, a self-described “revolutionary” and modern-day Viking who grew up between the Norwegian mountains and the city.
That split childhood, he explains, gave him the sense that there’s always another reality beyond the concrete, which now fuels his mission to question the systems most people take for granted. Thor talks candidly about his earlier life in marketing, chasing clicks and likes with content that didn’t reflect his heart.
The turning point came when he “imploded” internally and decided, as he puts it, to “just say it” – sharing his real views on power, corruption and how “the systems in which govern reality… are created by people that don’t have our best intentions at heart.” From around 100,000 followers to more than a million, he’s kept his focus on using social media as a tool for good rather than escape.
You’ll hear how he balances calling out “bad actors” with building alternatives: conscious businesses, new community blueprints and a creator school for heart-led changemakers. Thor also champions vipassana meditation retreats through Yogi Lab, describing 10 days of silence as “the most transformative experience” he’s had, and a crucial counter to the frantic, addictive pull of modern life. Throughout, the conversation stays surprisingly hopeful.
Thor insists that many people are waking up, that “we cannot create change unless we become that change first,” and that perhaps the safest bet anyone can make is to follow their heart. If you’ve ever wondered how to combine activism, business, spirituality and honest self-expression, this conversation might nudge you to ask: what message are you truly here to share?

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