177: Voices of Courage with Ken D. Foster and guest Gary Zukav

177: Voices of Courage with Ken D. Foster and guest Gary Zukav

How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety and spiritual growth at the same time? This conversation between host Ken D. Foster and bestselling author and spiritual teacher Gary Zukav brings that question right to the surface.

Ken opens up about his own turning point: hearing an inner voice say, "you've got to feel the pain to make the change," calling AA, and realising, over time, that he "wasn't who I thought I was" beyond money, cars and status. His story sets the tone for anyone in recovery who's starting to sense there’s a deeper self beneath old habits and labels.

Gary shares how his awakening began while writing about quantum physics and through a striking encounter in the Anza-Borrego Desert. A channeller told him, "a small flame has been kindled in you... and you have to keep the flame alive," kicking off a long journey into what he calls "the new consciousness". For him, true power now means aligning personality with soul, choosing love instead of control, even when fear, anger or addiction are raging.

You’ll hear Gary break down "frightened" and "loving" parts of the personality, and how emotional awareness and "responsible choice" can shift someone from addictive anger, jealousy or superiority into gratitude, patience and compassion. Ken adds humour to the mix with his story about naming his controlling side "Benny" and asking a friend to call it out, showing a very practical way to change old patterns.

The episode also touches on grief, as Gary describes losing his long-time partner Linda and realising, "I don't have any reason for living now except to love people". For anyone rebuilding life after addiction or loss, this conversation points again and again to one central message: authentic power is love. What small step could you take today to move from fear into love?