181: Natural Healing Show with Catherine Carrigan & guest Ismael Cala

181: Natural Healing Show with Catherine Carrigan & guest Ismael Cala

UK Health Radio Podcast

Catherine Kerrigan and Ismael Cala talk about learning to question thoughts, honour intuition and use simple daily practices to support natural healing. Their conversation covers nature, humour, forgiveness and purpose as ways to shift from suffering into a healthier relationship with mind, body and spirit.

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48:245 Jul 2026

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The Art of Listening to Yourself with Catherine Kerrigan & Ismael Cala

Episode Overview

  • Healing can begin by separating identity from thoughts and recognising that many thoughts are simply mental habits, not truth.
  • Medication may ease symptoms but does not always reach the root causes of emotional pain, so questioning inner dialogue becomes essential.
  • Simple daily practices like mindfulness, silence, nature time, music, dance and humour can help regulate the nervous system and restore peace.
  • Forgiveness releases emotional poison and unblocks healing, whereas holding on to resentment can keep the body and mind stuck in pain.
  • Listening more than speaking—both to others and to oneself—opens space for intuition, early signs from the body, and deeper self-knowledge.
We are not our mind. We have a mind.

What can we learn from those who have battled addiction to negative thinking and self-doubt? This Natural Healing Show episode on UK Health Radio centres on the art of listening to yourself, with medical intuitive healer Catherine Kerrigan chatting with author and former CNN en Español host Ismael Cala about intuition, mental health, and inner healing. Cala shares a deeply personal history of family suicides, teenage bullying and being medicated for depression from age 15 to 19.

He explains how questioning his thoughts became a turning point: “We are not our mind. We have a mind.” Instead of seeing pills as the only answer, he began to ask what was really happening inside his head and gradually built a new relationship with his thoughts and emotions. The conversation moves into practical daily practices that anyone on a recovery or healing path can relate to: mindfulness, silence, nature, humour and what he calls “inner pharmacy” work.

Cala describes moving to the countryside, growing a garden and feeling what he jokingly calls a “spiritual orgasm” from the joy and grounding it brings. Catherine matches this with her own love of gardens and orchids, using nature as a reminder that change is constant and safe. For anyone who’s ever struggled with intrusive thoughts or emotional pain, their discussion on intuition is likely to resonate.

They talk about clairaudience (intuitive hearing), waking in the early hours with guidance, and the courage it takes to stop censoring those messages. Cala highlights forgiveness and purpose as core to long-term well-being, arguing that purpose begins with self-knowledge rather than job titles. If you’ve been wondering whether your thoughts are telling you the truth, or how to work with your own inner voice instead of against it, this conversation might be the nudge you’ve been waiting for.

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