2: Back to Root with Dee Mani & Kate Shemirani - Episode 22: Back to Root with Dee Mani & Kate Shemirani - Episode 2
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Dee Mani and Kate Shemirani talk with Dr Patrick Vickers about the Gerson Therapy, focusing on metabolism, diet, thyroid health and liver detoxification in cancer care. They mix their own cancer stories with a detailed breakdown of juicing, salt, fats and coffee enemas, while repeatedly stressing that treatment choices remain personal.
47:19•4 Nov 2026
Back to Root: Cancer, Metabolism and the Gerson Way with Dr Patrick Vickers
Episode Overview
- Gerson Therapy is presented as a structured way to restore metabolism through five phases, focusing on gut, cell membranes, intracellular balance, thyroid and liver.
- A daily intake of around 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables, mainly as juices, is said to support gut repair and provide high levels of potassium.
- Saturated fats and high salt intake are described as damaging to cell membranes and promoting cellular oedema, while flax oil and potassium-rich foods are used instead.
- Coffee enemas are highlighted as a key tool for stimulating liver detoxification by increasing glutathione S-transferase production.
- The hosts stress that treatment choices are personal and encourage anyone with a cancer diagnosis to change diet thoughtfully and ask detailed questions of their oncology team.
“Gerson reinvented the wheel in terms of cancer treatment; he showed that these diseases are simple errors and breakdowns in metabolism.”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety and serious illness? This conversation on Back to Root zooms in on cancer, metabolism and natural healing, with a heavy dose of plain speaking and a few laughs along the way. Host Dee Mani, nine years on from triple negative breast cancer, and her “bestie” co-host Kate Shemirani share how the Gerson Therapy became central to their own recovery stories.
Both talk about refusing conventional treatment, changing their diets and watching issues like psoriasis, migraines and menopausal symptoms ease, all while stressing they are sharing information, not issuing prescriptions. Guest Dr Patrick Vickers lays out what he calls the “secret” of Gerson: restoring metabolism in five phases. He explains how 20 pounds of organic fruits and vegetables a day, mostly as juices, are used to repair the gut, while flax oil replaces saturated fats to help oxygen move into cells.
He breaks down why modern high-salt, high-protein diets may drive cellular swelling and why Gerson banned animal products and added a specific potassium compound instead. Things get practical – and slightly cheeky – when the trio talk coffee enemas. Dr Vickers argues they are “the most ingenious way to detoxify the human body”, explaining how rectal coffee boosts glutathione S-transferase in the liver by 600–700%.
Kate chips in with thyroid talk, iodine, bromine in bread and why tender breasts might hint at iodine deficiency. The tone stays warm and conversational, with Dee and Kate repeatedly reminding anyone with a cancer diagnosis that it’s “your life, your choice”, while urging them to ask hard questions, especially around diet.
If you’re curious about plant-based metabolic therapies, worried about salt, sugar or animal protein, or just want to hear a different take on cancer care, this chat gives plenty to chew on – and maybe juice, too. What parts of your daily routine might you rethink after hearing this?
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