21: Lead Well Live Well with Dee Blick & guest action Coach Vern Dercksen

21: Lead Well Live Well with Dee Blick & guest action Coach Vern Dercksen

Gain insights from experts on what it means to lead with heart and purpose. This conversation centres on business, calling, faith and personal growth, making it a good fit if you’re curious about how character shapes success.

Host Dee Blick introduces business coach and former South African pastor Vern Dercksen with a heartfelt testimonial from one of his clients, Andy Lee, who says Vern "changed my perspective on my business numbers" and is now "more than just my coach, he's my friend." From there, the chat moves through Vern’s upbringing in a Christian home, 25 years in pastoral work, and his tough choice between a potential rugby career and a life focused on helping people change.

You’ll hear how Vern’s pastoral skills transfer directly into business coaching: deep listening, asking better questions, looking for the root cause rather than the "fruit," and holding difficult conversations with care. He talks about moving with his family to the UK because they "felt a clear call," and how that decision opened new doors both personally and professionally. The episode digs into why Vern chose to join ActionCOACH after trying to coach independently.

He explains the intense training (including "140 hours in 10 days" in Las Vegas), the ongoing support from other coaches, and how constant learning raises your weakest competencies so stress can’t "break through" the cracks so easily. There’s also a strong focus on mindset.

Vern speaks about the moment when a business owner stops being the ceiling of their business, his use of client scoring to keep himself accountable, and the be × do = have formula: decide who you need to be and what you need to do so results take care of themselves. If you’ve ever wondered whether you’re putting a lid on your own potential, this conversation might nudge you to ask: what ceiling have you created for yourself?