3rd Foundation with Noah Levine

3rd Foundation with Noah Levine

Against The Stream

Stop Ignoring Your Mind

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1:27:2522 May 2026

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Training a Wild Mind: Noah Levine on the Third Foundation of Mindfulness

Episode Overview

  • Mindfulness practice is meant to move beyond the breath toward directly observing thoughts, emotions and mental states.
  • Seeing a greedy, hating or deluded mind as it is – without judgement – is central to the third foundation of mindfulness.
  • Thoughts and emotions are impermanent, unreliable and impersonal; they arise by themselves and pass if not continually fed.
  • Meeting pain with compassion rather than aversion gradually reduces suffering and builds tolerance and mercy toward oneself.
  • Awareness itself is already an intervention; simply watching the mind clearly begins to change long‑held patterns.
If you're aware of how scattered you are, great meditation. I sat here and I watched my mind think.

Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? This talk with Noah Levine from Against The Stream focuses on training the mind, especially for people whose thinking easily slips into craving, resentment, and self‑judgement. Noah is several months into a series on the Buddha’s Eightfold Path and here he focuses on the **third foundation of mindfulness** – being aware of the mind itself.

He explains how many people get stuck on “just follow the breath” and never move on to really looking at thoughts and emotions.

As he puts it, the shift is from “the temporary pleasure of ignorance” to “a more reliable experience of a wise relationship to judgment, to fear, to craving, to aversion, to self‑centeredness.” You’ll hear practical instructions for sitting meditation: starting with the breath to steady attention, then opening up to watch thoughts like trains passing through a station or bubbles drifting through space.

Noah talks through classic Buddhist categories – noticing a “greedy mind as greedy,” a “hating mind as hating,” and seeing how often the mind is simply “full of shit a lot of the time” and extremely unreliable. He keeps the tone down‑to‑earth and funny, even while addressing heavy themes like hatred, shame, and lifelong conditioning.

There’s honest discussion of how pain in the body or mind doesn’t have to be an enemy, and how learning to sit still with discomfort can gradually shift “I fucking hate this” into basic tolerance and eventually compassion. For anyone in recovery, the idea that thoughts arise by themselves – like the heart beating – can be a huge relief.

The emphasis is clear: you don’t have to stop thinking; you just need a kinder, more honest relationship with your own mind. If your head often feels like “a bubble machine,” could this kind of practice be the next step in your healing?

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