#67: Sitting Down to Pee & Other Shameless Confessions in a Tree House#67: Sitting Down to Pee & Other Shameless Confessions in a Tree House
Mocktails Or Messy
Ryan and Kelly swap the studio for a tree house chat about sober coaching, mocktails, farm-life chaos and shameless personal confessions. Their laid-back conversation blends humour with real talk on recovery, family, money and learning to embrace the weird.
33:46•12 Nov 2026
Tree House Confessions: Mocktails, Messy Truths and Sitting Down to Pee
Episode Overview
- Sobriety can become a positive "full-time vibe" when linked to purpose, work and helping others.
- Mocktails offer a way to stay in the social mix without alcohol, keeping the fun but ditching the fallout.
- Old emotional wounds from divorce or family shifts can fuel growth when acknowledged rather than ignored.
- Astrology readings prompt self-reflection on overcommitting, escapism and adapting to change.
- Shame-free honesty about everyday habits, like sitting down to pee, can lighten conversations around body and behaviour.
“We are weird. We need to embrace the weirdness. Guys, we are weirdies.”
Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? This episode of Mocktails Or Messy swaps the studio for Kelly's rustic tree house, complete with goats, chickens, toddlers and just one shared mic. It's all about honest friendship, mocktails, and the messy bits of life that usually stay off camera. Ryan and Kelly catch up like old cross-country teammates, joking about marathon runners "that have shit themselves" and laughing their way through exercise ruts, sauna fantasies and home gyms.
The humour stays light but real, especially when Ryan openly admits, "I sit down and pee... I'm shameless," turning a personal quirk into a chat about shame, hygiene, and owning your habits without apology. For anyone curious about sober living, you'll hear Ryan talk candidly about his journey from heavy drinking to becoming a sober coach.
He shares how coaching others, building a real estate career, and growing Mocktails Or Messy helps him channel past wounds from divorce and family distance into something constructive. Kelly balances the conversation with her own perspective as a "cocktailer" who still enjoys wine, showing that friendship can thrive across different relationships with alcohol.
You also get a peek into Kelly's farm-life chaos—kids who sleep in her bed every night, her dad stepping in as "old McDonald" when she travels, and her love–hate relationship with the city. An astrology reading adds another layer, calling out Ryan's "restless mind" and tendency to overcommit, which he admits lines up a bit too well.
It's funny, raw, and very human—perfect if you're into recovery, sober curiosity, or just want to hear two best mates talk honestly about money, boundaries, mocktails and messy confessions. Who knew sitting down to pee and a tree house chat could say so much about learning to live differently?
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