8: The Getting Real with Hilary Show with Hilary Burns and guest Julie Ryan

8: The Getting Real with Hilary Show with Hilary Burns and guest Julie Ryan

How do people find comfort in the mystery of death and the unseen? This UK Health Radio episode of *The Getting Real with Hilary Show* brings together host Hilary Burns and guest Julie Ryan for a candid, funny, and surprisingly down-to-earth chat about angels, dying, and so-called "woo-woo" healing.

Julie introduces herself as "a businesswoman and an inventor who learned how to do woo-woo, and I'm a buffet of psychicness." Far from fitting the stereotype of a lifelong psychic, she explains how she trained as a medical intuitive after reading books on energy and quantum physics, then spent six years studying healing techniques while still running a surgical device company.

Hilary shares a personal story of debilitating back pain that baffled doctors until Julie casually said, "Oh yeah, it's your ribs. Go to the chiropractor" – and the pain vanished within a day. From there, the conversation widens into how Julie does remote body scans, sees energy healings in real time, and even checks in on people during surgery.

For many, the most compelling part is Julie’s description of what she calls the "12 phases of transition" – stages she says every person goes through as they die, whether quickly or over years. She talks about spirits forming a "welcome to heaven committee", why the closest maternal figure always seems to "run the show", and how research with hospice patients suggests many people really do see deceased loved ones and pets near the end.

The tone stays conversational and light, with Hilary asking the sceptical questions you might be thinking yourself. This episode will likely appeal to anyone curious about end-of-life experiences, spiritual healing, or simply wanting a gentler, less frightening way to think about dying. Could reframing death in this way make the whole journey of life feel a bit less scary?