89: The Umbrella Hour with Dr. An Goldbauer & Zander Keig LCSW - Episode 8989: The Umbrella Hour with Dr. An Goldbauer & Zander Keig LCSW - Episode 89
UK Health Radio Podcast
Joey McFadden shares his experience engaging with an anti-gay church, exploring themes of dialogue, understanding, and bridge-building in a polarised society.
46:46•13 Oct 2025
Bridge Building in Unexpected Places: Joey McFadden's Journey
Episode Overview
- Engaging with those who hold opposing views can foster understanding.
- Direct contact often reveals complexities beyond initial perceptions.
- Humour can be a tool for navigating challenging environments.
- It's important to challenge stereotypes without seeking victory.
- Building bridges requires patience and a willingness to engage.
“"We need more people like Daryl Davis... If I can do it, you can do it too."”
Experience the emotional and inspiring tales of recovery as Joey McFadden shares his unique journey in this episode of The Umbrella Hour. As a bisexual man engaging with an anti-gay church in New York City, Joey talks about his motivations and the surprising warmth he encountered. Drawing inspiration from Daryl Davis, Joey explains how he navigated the complexities of interacting with those who might not initially accept him.
He emphasises the importance of reaching out to those with differing viewpoints, whether it's a Republican cousin or a church congregation, to foster understanding and coexistence. Joey's story is not just about personal bravery but about the broader need for dialogue in a polarised society. He discusses how his involvement with Braver Angels has shaped his approach to bridge-building and reducing animosity.
The episode also touches on the power of direct engagement over confrontation, as Joey recounts his experiences in the church where rhetoric often overshadows reality. Through humour and candidness, Joey illustrates how even in spaces where one might feel out of place, there's potential for meaningful connections. This episode is a testament to the idea that understanding doesn't mean agreement but can lead to coexistence.
So, what does it take to step into a world where you're not always welcome and still find common ground? Dive into Joey's story to find out.

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