8: Brave Together Podcast - Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell and Dr. Zoe Shaw - Episode 88: Brave Together Podcast - Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell and Dr. Zoe Shaw - Episode 8
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The Brave Together Podcast discusses the challenges and joys of caregiving for children with disabilities. Hosts share insights on managing grief and finding joy.
44:42•11 Mar 2026
Brave Together: Finding Joy in Caregiving
Episode Overview
- Caregiving grief is cyclical and natural.
- Envy towards empty nesters is common.
- Finding 'pockets' of joy is crucial.
- Community support offers strength.
- Cosplay as empty nesters for moments of freedom.
“Grief in this journey is cyclical, and it's okay.”
How do individuals find strength in their journey to caregiving? In this heartfelt episode of the Brave Together Podcast, hosts Jessica Patay, Susanna Peace Lovell, and Dr. Zoe Shaw share an open dialogue about the challenges faced by parents caring for children with disabilities. Jessica, a mother and advocate, is joined by Susanna, a life coach, and Dr.
Zoe, a psychotherapist, as they tackle the emotions and realities of being 'forever nesters.' The conversation touches on the longing for freedom and the grief of watching peers' children grow up and move out while they continue caregiving. Listeners are treated to honest discussions about the desire for spontaneity and the guilt that often accompanies it. The hosts explore how grief in caregiving is cyclical, acknowledging the feelings of envy towards those who experience empty nesting.
They offer a compassionate space where parents can feel seen and understood, while also providing hope and joy amidst the struggles. The episode encourages caregivers to find 'pockets' of joy and to 'cosplay' as empty nesters occasionally, allowing themselves moments of freedom. With candid anecdotes and expert advice, this podcast is a beacon of support for those navigating the caregiving journey. It's a reminder that even amidst challenges, it's possible to seek joy and fulfilment.
So, what small steps can you take today to find your own moments of joy?

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