90: Natural Health & Sobriety with Janey Lee Grace & guest With Susie Pearl - author, TEDx and SXSW speaker, cancer survivor…90: Natural Health & Sobriety with Janey Lee Grace & guest With Susie Pearl - author, TEDx and SXSW speaker, cancer survivor…
UK Health Radio Podcast
Janey Lee Grace talks with author and speaker Susie Pearl about lifelong sobriety, meditation and creativity, framed by Susie’s extraordinary near-death experience. Their chat links practical alcohol-free living with deeper questions about health, identity and what truly matters in life.
42:41•28 May 2026
Miracles, Meditation and Saying No to Booze with Susie Pearl
Episode Overview
- Strong personal boundaries make it easier to stay alcohol-free, even in social circles where drinking is seen as normal.
- Meditation can act as a powerful daily tool to ease stress, anxiety and emotional pain, especially during big life changes.
- Interrupting old routines and planning ahead helps prevent automatic reach-for-a-drink moments after work or during triggers.
- How you talk about yourself matters; repeated negative phrases like “I’m always this” or “I’m terrible at that” can become self-fulfilling.
- Creativity in any form — from painting and writing to dancing and singing — can support healing and fill the space alcohol once occupied.
“Meditation is like secret sauce. It’s the finest tool I’ve ever come across to take you to a much better place.”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? This conversation on UK Health Radio brings together natural health, alcohol-free living and a jaw‑dropping story of survival. Host Janey Lee Grace chats with author, coach and long‑time non‑drinker Susie Pearl, whose life stretches from high‑pressure celebrity PR – think Michael Jackson, Madonna and the Spice Girls – to meditation, creativity and a mind‑bending near‑death experience.
Even while surrounded by endless champagne and showbiz parties, Susie says alcohol always felt “poisonous” to her, and she shares how strong boundaries helped her stay sober in a culture that treated drinking as the norm. Sobriety here sits alongside something even bigger: Susie’s account of being given three weeks to live after a brain tumour diagnosis, leaving her body during a hospital stay, and returning to find her tumour gone.
A senior oncologist reportedly called it “a miracle”, to which Susie replied, “That’s my business. I am in the business of miracles.” She explains how this changed her view of death, why she now sees everyone as deeply connected, and how careful language and intention shape our reality. For anyone rebuilding life without alcohol, Susie and Janey swap very practical ideas: interrupting drinking routines, planning ahead for tough moments, and using meditation as “secret sauce” for stress, anxiety and heartbreak.
They also talk about creativity as a powerful healing force – whether it’s painting, dancing, singing or, as Janey jokes, trying all the “‑ings” except drinking. Aimed at people curious about sobriety, personal healing and spiritual questions around life and death, this episode blends humour, honesty and some seriously wild plot twists. It might leave you asking: if you changed your daily habits, what kind of miracle could your life make room for?
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