Christmas And The Incarnation (Episode 2)Christmas And The Incarnation (Episode 2)
Relational Recovery
Wes Thompson and Austin Hill discuss the Christmas story's connection to recovery, exploring themes of shame, humility, and God's unconditional love.
7:02•11 Dec 2024
Christmas, Shame, and the Incarnation: Finding Hope in Humble Beginnings
Episode Overview
- The difference between shame and toxic shame.
- Jesus' birth as an example of humility and dependence on God.
- God's unconditional love and desire for a relationship with us.
- Personal anecdotes about feelings of unworthiness.
- Connecting the Christmas story to everyday recovery.
“God isn't looking for a better version of you. He's looking for you.”
In this episode of Relational Recovery, hosts Wes Thompson and Austin Hill dive into the profound themes of Christmas and the Incarnation. They explore how the story of Jesus' birth offers a unique perspective on recovery, shame, and the human condition. Wes and Austin discuss the difference between shame and toxic shame, highlighting how the latter can create a deep-seated belief that one is unlovable and inherently flawed.
They reflect on the significance of Jesus being born in humble circumstances to unwed teenage parents, illustrating that God’s love and desire for a relationship with us is unconditional and not based on our perfection. The conversation is both heartfelt and thought-provoking, encouraging listeners to see their own struggles through a lens of compassion and hope. The hosts also share personal anecdotes and biblical insights, making this episode a touching blend of spirituality and psychology.
If you’re looking for an uplifting discussion that ties the Christmas story to everyday recovery, this episode is a must-listen.

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