Conversation with Selah - Our Body, Our HealthConversation with Selah - Our Body, Our Health
Recovery Crone Podcast
Recovery Crone and Selah talk frankly about chronic illness, trauma, and medical dismissal, sharing decades of experience with pain and fatigue. Their conversation focuses on self-advocacy, spiritual practice, and learning to relate to the body with tenderness rather than blame.
1:01:02•8 Sept 2026
Our Body, Our Health: Chronic Pain, Trauma and Letting Go of Hope
Episode Overview
- Normal test results do not cancel out a person’s lived experience of chronic pain and illness.
- Both western and alternative practitioners can miss or minimise chronic conditions, so self-research and self-advocacy become crucial.
- Letting go of a waiting-style hope can open space for focusing on the present moment, possibility, and small experiments in what actually helps.
- Speaking to the body like a frightened child—with repeated tenderness and patience—can shift a harsh, mechanical relationship into a gentler one.
- Spiritual practices such as mantra, meditation and visual imagery may offer moments of relief and a sense that one’s life force remains intact.
“"I have to say, my tests have come back normal for 30 years of chronic disease."”
What emotional and inspiring tales of recovery are out there? This conversation between Recovery Crone and her long-time friend Selah zooms in on chronic illness, trauma, and what it means to live in a body that hurts most of the time. Aimed at women in recovery and anyone dealing with chronic pain, the chat is raw, sweary, funny in places, and deeply honest.
Selah shares 30 years of “normal” test results while living with intense fatigue and body-wide pain she describes as, “my skeleton is made of wood and is burning from the inside out.” Western doctors and alternative practitioners alike often shrugged or stared blankly, leaving her to become “a researcher” of her own body and to decide, herself, what counted as helpful.
You’ll hear about the limits of both western and alternative medicine, the emotional cost of being dismissed, and the strange freedom in dropping hope as a kind of waiting game. As Selah puts it, hope can sometimes mean rejecting the present moment, whereas possibility and experiment feel more honest: “I am my own science experiment.” There’s also rich conversation about trauma, dissociation, and control.
Recovery Crone talks about treating her body like a car she has to drive from the outside, terrified of what she’ll feel if she truly connects with it.
Selah responds with a simple but demanding practice: speak to your body as you would to a frightened small child—“with tenderness and compassion… 16,000 times if needed.” Alongside medical tests and treatments, the two women share spiritual tools like mantra, meditation, and moments of unexpected joy, including a hummingbird vision that showed Selah her life force had never been destroyed.
If you’ve ever been told “your tests are fine” while knowing in your bones that they’re not, this conversation might feel like sitting on the sofa with people who actually get it. How might your own body respond if you treated it as an ally, rather than a broken machine?
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