E02 / The Periodic Table of Love, with Michael “Roddy” McDowellE02 / The Periodic Table of Love, with Michael “Roddy” McDowell
Brothers and Teachers
Bowen Dwelle and Michael “Roddy” McDowell discuss love, identity, and the journey from Navy pilot to social worker.
1:03:48•25 Jul 2022
Michael “Roddy” McDowell on Love, Identity, and Healing
“But I do think there are things, there are parts of love that men can and have to contribute to love that we haven't seen enough of yet.”
Ever wondered how a former Navy pilot instructor transitions to becoming a social worker? Bowen Dwelle sits down with his friend Michael “Roddy” McDowell, who’s taken that very journey. In this episode of 'Brothers and Teachers', they dive into Roddy's fascinating life, from flying wide-body jets to studying for a Master of Social Work at NYU Silver. Roddy opens up about the cloak of inadequacy many men wear and how pivotal moments can help us shed it.
They explore how somatic sensations—those physical feelings we often ignore—play a crucial role in understanding our emotions. The conversation also touches on the importance of self-compassion in mental health and the unique ways men can contribute to the story of love, often overlooked in cultural narratives. Roddy shares his personal experiences with depression and the shame that sometimes accompanies it, offering a raw and honest perspective.
Bowen and Roddy wrap up by reflecting on how music can be a powerful tool for connection and healing. If you're curious about how identity and love intersect with mental health, this episode offers a heartfelt and enlightening discussion.

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