Ep 057 | Think About That For A MinuteEp 057 | Think About That For A Minute
Unashamed Recovery
Pastor Kelly K shares his journey from rock tours to Christian ministry while unpacking how repentance, Scripture, and honesty keep faith and recovery alive. The hosts and guest talk openly about shame, ongoing struggles and spiritual “fire,” offering a raw yet hopeful conversation for anyone in addiction recovery.
1:15:59•22 Jan 2024
Staying Lit for Jesus: Repentance, Recovery and Rock ’n’ Roll with Kelly K
Episode Overview
- Repentance is described as a change of mind and direction fuelled by God’s goodness, rather than a cycle of guilt and shame.
- Kelly explains that spiritual “fire” needs three things: relationship with God (heat), regular time in Scripture (fuel), and sharing with others (oxygen).
- The hosts stress that sermons, videos, and devotionals should push people back into reading the Bible for themselves and checking everything against Scripture.
- Open confession of ongoing struggles, including lust and pornography, shows that recovery is a process and that shame loses power when stories are shared.
- Journaling – whether written or recorded – is encouraged as a way to track prayers, see God’s faithfulness over time, and gain fresh perspective on past seasons.
“My Bible says in Romans that it's the goodness of God that leads to repentance. It doesn't mention the shamefulness of you at all.”
What can we learn from those who have battled addiction? This joint episode of Unashamed Recovery and Black Sheep Recovery Warfare zooms in on faith, repentance, and staying spiritually "lit" with guest Pastor Kelly Kopp (better known as Kelly K). You’ll hear how Kelly went from touring with major rock bands to surrendering his life to Jesus after a near-fatal car crash, and later even facing a pain-pill dependence while already in seminary.
His honesty makes it clear that struggle doesn’t magically disappear just because someone starts following Christ. As he puts it, "My Bible says in Romans that it's the goodness of God that leads to repentance. It doesn't mention the shamefulness of you at all." The conversation lands perfectly for people in recovery who still wrestle with guilt and relapse.
Kelly breaks down repentance as a change of mind and direction, not a life sentence of self-hatred, and the hosts share openly about porn, lust and shame, showing just how messy real-life faith can be. There’s also a memorable breakdown of his “fire triangle” from his book *Think About That For a Minute*: heat (relationship with God), fuel (Scripture and spiritual input), and oxygen (sharing what God is doing with others).
Lose one, and your spiritual fire fizzles out – a picture anyone in recovery will relate to. The tone stays light and funny, with plenty of jokes about tattoos, muscle cars and stalker-level TikTok fandom, yet it never strays far from hope, obedience and honesty. Families get a nod too, as one dad shares how his whole household worked through Kelly’s 40-day devotional together and how his 12‑year‑old could clearly explain repentance.
If you’re tired of shame-heavy religion and want a straight-talking, biblically based chat about recovery, relapse, and staying on fire for God, this is one to queue up next. What part of your own story might God be waiting for you to share?

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