EP 16 - Penny Stark of Recovery Centers of AmericaEP 16 - Penny Stark of Recovery Centers of America
Recovery Greenhouse with Gerald Lott
a bi-weekly podcast featuring conversations about ideas/mindsets/programs and concepts that help grow the community of people recovering from substance use disorders
50:45•16 Jul 2023
The Power of Surrender: Penny Stark's Path to Recovery
Episode Overview
- The importance of surrender and embracing discomfort in the recovery process
- Penny Stark's role as a treatment advocate and her journey of long-term recovery
- The impact of community support on individuals' recovery paths
- Addressing stigma and the need for comprehensive resources in recovery support
“I think if I were to put a title on anything and say what's most important, it would be a person in long-term recovery.”
How do you find strength in surrender? In this episode of 'Recovery Greenhouse', host Gerald Lott sits down with Penny Stark, a treatment advocate at Recovery Centers of America and a board member of Sauk Valley Voices of Recovery. Penny opens up about her inspiring journey through long-term recovery, shedding light on the pivotal moments that shaped her path. She emphasizes the importance of embracing discomfort and making the conscious choice of sobriety every single day.
The discussion also dives into the concept of 'dry drunk', exploring what it means to be sober without true emotional and psychological recovery. Gerald and Penny share a candid conversation about the critical role of community support and treatment advocacy in connecting individuals to the resources they need. They also tackle the pressing issue of stigma surrounding substance use disorders, advocating for a more compassionate and understanding approach.
With mutual respect and admiration, Gerald and Penny's dialogue offers both practical insights and heartfelt encouragement for anyone navigating their own recovery journey.

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