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Clean and Sober Radio
'California Sober' is the focus as Gary Hendler and Mark Sigmund debate whether abstaining from some drugs but using others counts as true sobriety.
55:54•22 Nov 2024
Is 'California Sober' Really Sober?
Episode Overview
- Explores the concept of 'California Sober'
- Questions if substituting one drug for another counts as sobriety
- Shares Jelly Roll's perspective on his own sobriety journey
- Discusses the potential dangers of using marijuana in recovery
- Encourages listeners to reflect on their own definitions of sobriety
“He claims that because he abstains from cocaine and opiates but smokes weed, he is sober”
Ever wondered if someone can be truly sober while still using certain substances? In this episode of Clean and Sober Radio, host Gary Hendler and cohost Mark Sigmund dive into the controversial topic of 'California Sober.' The discussion centres around individuals who claim sobriety by abstaining from their primary drug of choice but continue using other substances. Country artist Jelly Roll, for example, avoids cocaine and opiates but smokes weed and drinks alcohol, considering himself sober.
The hosts explore whether this trend is a valid form of recovery or just another form of denial. They share personal anecdotes, industry insights, and even a humorous story about a drug dealer who reported his lost stash to the police. This episode raises important questions about what it truly means to be sober and how different substances impact recovery. Tune in to hear varied perspectives and decide for yourself where you stand on this issue.

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