Episode #149: From Surviving to Living: Ron Permenter’s StoryEpisode #149: From Surviving to Living: Ron Permenter’s Story
Recovery Lab
Ron Permenter talks with Recovery Lab about growing up in an alcoholic family, reaching rock bottom and finding long-term sobriety. The conversation covers his path into nursing, making amends to family and shifting from simply surviving to actively living.
55:17•30 Sept 2026
From Chaos to Compassion: Ron Permenter Moves From Surviving to Living
Episode Overview
- Recovery can begin with a simple introduction to the concept of alcoholism and a willingness to attend a few meetings.
- Writing honestly about the power of alcohol can help make sense of powerlessness and open the door to spiritual growth.
- Amends may include practical steps like clearing legal issues and emotional steps like facing parents with honesty and compassion.
- Support from sponsors and fellow members can encourage returning to education, finding work and building a stable life.
- Showing up consistently for family, even through illness and death, can become a powerful form of living amends.
“When I was introduced to a solution, I didn’t want to let go.”
How do individuals turn their lives around after addiction? Recovery Lab shines a spotlight on that question through Ron Permenter’s long-term sobriety and deep commitment to service. You’ll hear how Ron grew up in a multi-generational alcoholic family where drinking, fighting and chaos were considered normal. He talks openly about an angry father, a devoted but overwhelmed mother, and the confusion of being a sensitive, gay kid in a culture that shamed both feelings and sexuality.
As Ron puts it, “I wasn’t feeling great about myself,” and alcohol quickly became the magic ticket to feeling seen and accepted. The conversation with hosts Brynn Knox, Daniel Anderson and David Sugg follows Ron from those early days to a rock-bottom moment in an abandoned farmhouse, then to a courtroom where a judge first mentioned alcoholism and pointed him toward meetings.
Ron recalls his first candlelight meeting, the strange language of recovery literature, and how a sponsor cleverly used his devotion to drinking to explain a “power greater than himself.” This isn’t just about getting sober; it’s about what happens next. Ron shares how recovery helped him go back to education, train as a nurse, and find the courage to speak in front of groups using AA’s fear prayer.
He also talks about making hard amends, including to a father who was once his biggest resentment and to a brother whose final years in a nursing home became a surprising source of spiritual connection. There’s humour too, from electric-bike crashes to parachute trousers and teenage schemes, but the heart of the episode is Ron’s steady message of showing up for family, sponsees and patients.
If you’re wondering whether long-term recovery can transform relationships and open up a meaningful career, this story might be one you’ll want to sit with—what would "living" look like for you, beyond just surviving?

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