Episode 608: The "Shocking Truth" Choice: Why We Spend More Time Buying Gifts Than Choosing RehabEpisode 608: The "Shocking Truth" Choice: Why We Spend More Time Buying Gifts Than Choosing Rehab
Busy Living Sober with Host Elizabeth Chance
Elizabeth Chance and Dr. Rachel Pappert Docekal discuss why families often spend more time choosing gifts than rehab centres, highlighting industry challenges and the importance of family involvement in recovery.
40:07•22 Jan 2026
The Shocking Truth About Choosing Rehab: A Candid Conversation
Episode Overview
- Families often spend more time choosing gifts than selecting a rehab centre.
- The lack of industry standards makes it hard to choose quality treatment.
- Family involvement is crucial for successful recovery.
- Non-profit centres focus on patient well-being over profit.
- Social media contributes to noise that affects young people's mental health.
“"Addiction has been around since people started crushing grapes, and it's really true."”
What are the common struggles and victories in addiction recovery? In this eye-opening episode of 'Busy Living Sober,' Elizabeth Chance sits down with Dr. Rachel Pappert Docekal, CEO of the Hanley Foundation, to discuss the shocking truth about how families often spend more time choosing gifts than selecting a rehab centre. This engaging conversation reveals the challenges within the addiction treatment industry, from the lack of standards to the complexities of dual diagnosis.
Rachel shares her personal connection to addiction and highlights the importance of stigma-busting in the industry. The episode also covers the role of family in recovery, the pitfalls of for-profit treatment centres, and the impact of social media on young people. With anecdotes about treatment centres that allow phones and mixed-gender programs, Rachel stresses the need for focused recovery environments.
This episode is a must-listen for anyone seeking a deeper understanding of addiction recovery and the systemic changes needed to support those on their journey.

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