Joe Hawk "The Work" 2004 - Part 3

Joe Hawk "The Work" 2004 - Part 3

In the latest episode of Joe Hawk's workshop series titled 'The Work', recorded in Central Valley, CA on September 11, 2004, Joe dives deep into the complexities and myths surrounding Alcoholics Anonymous (AA). This segment is part of a multi-part workshop aimed at uncovering truths and dispelling misconceptions within the AA community.

Joe begins by challenging some prevalent myths in AA, particularly the idea that the steps are meant to be worked only once, and then lived through steps 10, 11, and 12. He emphasizes the importance of continually reworking the first nine steps, a concept supported by figures like Harry Tebow and Dr. Bob, co-founder of AA. Joe highlights that this debate traces back to the origins of AA, with differing perspectives even among the founders.

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the difference between alcoholism and drug addiction, and whether one can completely recover from alcoholism or remain perpetually in recovery. Joe references his friend Frank from Denver, who asserts that those who consider themselves 'recovering' often aren't truly in recovery. This leads to an exploration of the book's purpose, which is to show other alcoholics how to recover, not just maintain sobriety. Joe also tackles the notion of choice in alcoholism.

He argues that in an unfit spiritual condition, a person has no choice but to drink, whereas in a fit condition, the choice to abstain becomes clear. This ties into the promises of steps 10 and 11, which assure that the problem will be removed, leading to a position of neutrality. The podcast further delves into the physical and mental aspects of addiction, distinguishing between the physical craving for alcohol and the mental obsession with it.

Joe shares personal reflections and encourages listeners to re-evaluate their own beliefs and experiences with these concepts. Joe concludes with a reminder of the importance of ongoing work and spiritual growth within the AA framework. He stresses that understanding and addressing both the physical and mental components of addiction are crucial for true recovery.