I think a lot of that didn't have to do with doubting you. It was kind of like, how? Like, yeah, like how am I going to pay you? Like, how? What do you mean, work for me? You know, like how's that going to even happen? We were so new at that time too, you know? Doing the transportation stuff, like, I was just trying to get the next ride. You know? So to think about how, like, I'm going to employ people, like, dude, that's silly talk, you know? Like, you're crazy, dude. Like, that's nuts. But here we are, you know? And it's just about not giving up.'