Nazeem Hussain's date with the spyNazeem Hussain's date with the spy
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It's 2011. Australia is in its tenth year of the War on Terror. Reports of hate crimes are on the rise. And 20-something Nazeem Hussain is a tax specialist. Before he was selling out shows and touring stand-up internationally, Nazeem Hussain wore a suit and clocked in at 9am for his day job. At evenings and weekends, he was also media spokesperson for the Islamic Council of Victoria. And one morning, he gets a phone call that sets him on a path worthy of a spy drama.
25:13•8 Feb 2022
Nazeem Hussain, ASIO and a Very Expensive Dinner
Episode Overview
- Humour can be a powerful way to process and share experiences of racism and suspicion.
- State surveillance can leave people feeling like they are permanently under scrutiny, even without charges or arrest.
- Community members may face secret approaches from intelligence agencies, often feeling pressured not to speak about them.
- Being visibly different can lead to overcompensating with extra kindness or humour as a defensive strategy.
- If a spy agency insists on dinner, Nazeem’s lesson is to order the most expensive thing on the menu.
“We don’t think you’re a terrorist... but we do think that you have the propensity to become radicalised.”
What remarkable journeys have people faced head-on against addiction? Here, the story skews more towards identity and suspicion than substance misuse, but it's still packed with moments that anyone who's felt judged or stereotyped will recognise. This episode follows comedian Nazeem Hussain back to 2011, before he was famous, when he was a young tax specialist in a suit by day and media spokesperson for the Islamic Council of Victoria by night.
Australia is deep in the War on Terror, and Muslims are under intense scrutiny. Nazeem’s stand-up draws heavily on everyday racism, like the shopkeeper who tells him, "Al-Qaeda is coming to invade Mowi, mate... Hello, beheadings by moonlight." Then comes the phone call that flips his routine life into a spy movie. A man called David from ASIO invites him to a secret dinner on Melbourne’s Southbank, complete with a whole fish at market price and endless mango juice.
The conversation starts out casual, but quickly turns unsettling as the agents casually reference details from his childhood and, at one point, tell him, "We don’t think you’re a terrorist... but we do think that you have the propensity to become radicalised." As Nazeem later shares this story on stage, he realises many friends in the Muslim community have had similar "dates" with intelligence officers but stayed silent.
The episode touches on paranoia, racial profiling, and the feeling of being permanently "a person of interest" in your own country. It also shows how humour becomes his way of processing fear and tension, and how being the always-sober, "extra nice" Muslim around non-Muslims shaped his comedy and public persona. If you’re curious how someone turns anxiety, surveillance and prejudice into sharp, funny storytelling, this one’s worth your time—what would you order if the spies picked up your tab?

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