Recovery Conversations with Kitty M.

Recovery Conversations with Kitty M.

The Broke Girl Society

Christina and Kitty Martz chat about the shifting seasons of gambling recovery, from raw early days to longer-term balance, and the role of women-only support spaces. Their conversation highlights multiple recovery pathways, using triggers as information, and building a life that feels worth staying for.

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40:576 Jun 2026

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Seasons of Gambling Recovery with Christina and Kitty Martz

Episode Overview

  • Recovery can shift over time, from intense early effort and frequent meetings to a more balanced, sustainable routine.
  • Women-only, gambling-specific groups like the Broke Girl Society can offer relatable support and community.
  • Triggers and difficult feelings can be used as information to guide further healing rather than reasons for shame.
  • There is no single correct pathway; different structures such as GA, SMART Recovery or online groups suit different lives.
  • Advice in support spaces lands best when shared as personal experience instead of “you should” instructions.
"I always say building a life you don’t want to escape from, and that looks like balance."

Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? This conversation between Christina and her close friend Kitty Martz offers a relaxed yet honest look at what gambling recovery can actually look like over time. Instead of focusing only on “stopping the bet”, they talk about the different seasons of recovery – from those raw first 90 days where life feels like nothing but consequences, to the quieter, deeper work years later.

Kitty, executive director of Voices of Problem Gambling Recovery in Oregon, shares how meetings, community and structure can help, but also laughs about the pressure of things like “90 meetings in 90 days” when someone is juggling work, kids and caring responsibilities. Christina opens up about friendships that didn’t survive her growth, the grief of letting go of old connections, and the joy of finding new ones through the Broke Girl Society.

She explains how the women-only gambling support group has grown into a genuinely supportive space with multiple online meetings each week, where members try to avoid “you should” advice and instead share, “This is what helped me.” A big thread in their chat is learning to see triggers and urges as information rather than proof of failure.

Kitty talks about using feelings as clues, and about the need for more than just pure avoidance in a world where money and gambling are everywhere. Christina adds that over time, self-awareness and self-care become core parts of building “a life you don’t want to escape from.” You’ll hear gentle humour, real talk about relapse and guilt, and a lot of compassion for both newcomers and “old-timers” in recovery.

If you’ve ever wondered whether there’s one right way to heal from gambling harm, this conversation might have you asking a better question: what could your own version of recovery look like?

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