SoberNotMature - Episode 234 (Pitt & The Perineum - Taint No Thang)SoberNotMature - Episode 234 (Pitt & The Perineum - Taint No Thang)
Sober Not Mature
Mike and Bill swap stories about walking through depression, work stress, relapse and celebrity drinking headlines, all with their trademark filthy humour. A candid chat about doing something—anything—rather than sitting in the misery and calling it a day.
1:44:41•15 Aug 2026
Getting Unstuck: Walking, Work Stress and Why Brad Pitt Isn’t Your Higher Power
Episode Overview
- Physical movement, even a short walk with focused breathing, can break the grip of low mood and obsessive thinking.
- Setting very small goals (a minute, a quarter mile, one day sober) often leads to much bigger change over time.
- Trying to “gut it out” alone is risky; sharing problems with another sober person usually cuts the pressure in half.
- Other people’s choices about drinking, including celebrities, have nothing to do with an individual’s own sobriety.
- There’s no such thing as a “safe” problem to drink over; big and small stresses all need tools, support and honesty.
“When you get down, get up, don't sit there in your shit and, you know, do something.”
How do different strategies aid in addiction recovery? Sober Not Mature’s award-nominated duo, Mike and Bill, bring their usual mix of raw honesty, dark humour and AA wisdom to a very loose, very sweary catch‑up that still lands some serious recovery punches. This week kicks off with Bill’s reading about “walking towards serenity” – a 1960 letter from Bill W. on using simple walking and breathing to shift depression and fear.
That sparks a grounded chat about getting off your backside when life feels heavy: moving a muscle to change a thought, setting tiny goals (a quarter of a mile, a minute at a time) and how those small actions add up to years of sobriety.
You’ll hear them compare early sobriety panic to where they are 16 years on, talk about meetings, sharing problems instead of “gutting it out”, and admit they still sometimes try to white‑knuckle things before remembering to pick up the phone. There’s a honest look at relapses too: friends who drink again after years sober, and why Brad Pitt’s return to alcohol has absolutely nothing to do with anyone else’s sobriety.
Mixed in are stories about ageing bodies, heatwaves, fundraising for the Keating Center, AirBnB business plans, hiking, and those little flashes of rage when the power and the air con go out – all handled with that familiar, filthy-mouthed charm. It’s very much a podcast for people who like their recovery real, imperfect and occasionally ridiculous.
If you’ve ever thought, “I’m exhausted but I’m not changing anything,” this one might nudge you to ask: what’s the next small thing you can actually do?

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