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Max and Pastor Phil talk about what happens after the Rooted 2026 Conference, focusing on God-driven growth, surrender, and deepening roots in recovery and faith. The conversation blends stories from Recovery Church’s journey with practical reflections on humility, honesty and staying present with God and others.
23:54•21 Apr 2026
Rooted After the High: Pastor Phil on Growth, Surrender and Recovery Church
Episode Overview
- Real spiritual and personal growth is something God produces, not something people can manufacture through effort or strategy.
- Returning to roots in recovery means embracing surrender and the “gift of desperation” instead of drifting into pride once life improves.
- Traditional churches can learn from recovery meetings’ availability, honesty, vulnerability and welcoming culture.
- Recovery communities and churches function best as humble partners, recognising how much they receive from each other.
- Prayers can shift from chasing provision and success to asking God for a deeper sense of presence with family, friends and God himself.
“It’s God that makes the tree grow.”
What can we learn from those who have battled addiction? Studio RC’s Rooted Conference follow-up series kicks off with a relaxed yet weighty chat between host Max and Pastor Phil (Philip Dvorak), founder of Recovery Church. Aimed at people in recovery who also care about their faith, this conversation blends humour, honesty, and straight-talk about what growth really looks like after the spiritual high of a big event.
You’ll hear Phil reflect on watching Recovery Church grow from a meeting in his living room to a movement with over 120 locations and an international reach. He likens it to watching children grow up—beautiful, slightly out of his control, and very clearly something God is doing rather than something he can take credit for.
As he puts it, “It’s God that makes the tree grow.” The heart of the chat sits on two big ideas from Phil’s Rooted message: you can’t force growth, and you need to go back to your roots. That means returning to surrender, the “gift of desperation” that many people in recovery know all too well, and guarding against the pride that creeps in once life starts looking better.
Phil also talks about what the wider church can learn from recovery rooms: the constant availability of meetings, raw honesty, and the way people feel embraced instead of pushed away. At the same time, he highlights how recovery communities and churches support each other and need humility on both sides.
Things get personal as Phil shares how his prayers have shifted from chasing financial security and the American dream to asking God, “allow me to be present” with family, friends, and God himself. If you’re wondering what comes after the conference buzz, this conversation nudges you to ask a simple question: what one step could you take today to let your roots grow a little deeper?

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