Sugar: When The Kitchen Cabinet Is Your Drug Dealer

Sugar: When The Kitchen Cabinet Is Your Drug Dealer

Addiction Medicine Made Easy

Dr Casey Grover talks with sugar-free coach Mike Collins about sugar as an addictive substance, the role of fructose, and why many people struggle to quit despite trying every diet. Their conversation links sugar recovery to broader addiction principles, harm reduction, and the power of community support.

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47:241 Jun 2026

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Sugar as a Drug: When the Kitchen Cupboard Feels Like a Dealer

Episode Overview

  • Sugar can act as a self-soothing drug, learned early in life when sweets are used instead of emotional support.
  • Fructose, rather than glucose, is highlighted as a key driver of cravings, gut changes, and long-term health problems.
  • Many people who are sober from alcohol or drugs report being unable to stop sugar, even with strong addiction knowledge.
  • Women in midlife and older often seek help after years of dieting, surgery and medications that never addressed sugar itself.
  • Lasting change usually requires community support, honest language about addiction, and healthier sources of dopamine such as exercise.
In my opinion, this is the largest addiction pandemic the world has ever known.

How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety when the "drug" is sitting in the kitchen cupboard? Addiction Medicine Made Easy takes a sharp, often funny, but very real look at sugar as a substance that can act like any other addiction – complete with cravings, withdrawal, and long-term harm.

Host Dr Casey Grover chats with Mike Collins, also known in the conversation as Mike Kelly, "the sugar-free man", who has spent decades helping people quit sugar after his own history of alcohol recovery and lifelong sugar use. He explains growing up in a home where "sugar was love", using sweets as comfort from a tough childhood, and later realising that sugar wasn’t about food at all but about "self-soothing" emotional pain.

Mike walks through how fructose in particular affects the gut, brain, and behaviour, arguing that "in my opinion, this is the largest addiction pandemic the world has ever known." He shares how most of his clients are women between about 50 and 80 who have tried every diet, surgery, and medication but "just can't get past the sugar." The two compare sugar to alcohol and cigarettes – less acutely dramatic, but hugely damaging over decades.

Dr Grover brings in his own experience of binge eating and bulimia, talking candidly about being one of those people whose pleasure chemicals go wild with sugar. He frames sugar work in the same way as other addictions: harm reduction where needed, community support, and replacing "cheap dopamine" from sweets with healthier hits like exercise. Much of the conversation centres on language and stigma: should sugar addiction be seen like any other substance use disorder?

How do we talk about "relapse" or "cravings" when the substance is socially celebrated at every birthday, holiday, and checkout aisle? Mike’s answer is clear – people need a tribe, structure, and a space where they don’t feel crazy for struggling with biscuits. If sugar feels like it’s running the show, this one might get you asking some uncomfortable but very helpful questions.

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