The Foundation of Recovery: A Tribute to Dr. John part 3 of 5

The Foundation of Recovery: A Tribute to Dr. John part 3 of 5

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Mike and Glenn share coffee with Dr. John as he explains why AA is a get‑well, not a feel‑good, programme and breaks down what working the programme really looks like. The conversation focuses on sponsors, ego, emotional pain and the everyday actions that keep sobriety on track.

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35:5127 May 2026

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Getting Well, Not Just Feeling Good: Dr. John on the Real Work of Recovery

Episode Overview

  • Recovery is a get-well programme, not a feel-good programme; chasing comfort alone leads back to alcohol.
  • Feeling good and doing well are two different things; painful periods can mark real growth if the basics are maintained.
  • Working the programme means acting rightly in spite of thoughts and feelings, using tools like meetings, sponsors and prayer.
  • When emotions are disturbed, pause: freeze, call your sponsor, and pray for willingness to follow good direction.
  • You cannot read your own label; honest feedback from others is vital because denial is about inability to see, not deliberate lying.
Where did you get the idea this is a feel-good program? You want to feel good? Go get drunk. You want to get well? Stick around.

What are the common struggles and victories in addiction recovery? This chat in the sober.coffee shop circles around that exact question as Mike and Glenn share the mic with their much‑loved regular, Dr. John, in a rebroadcast tribute to his life’s work. The tone swings from light banter about phones and screen time straight into the hard truth about Alcoholics Anonymous. Dr. John cuts through any romantic ideas: “Where did you get the idea this is a feel-good program?

You want to feel good? Go get drunk… You want to get well? Stick around.” That line becomes the anchor for the whole conversation. You’ll hear about his long history with AA, an early “bone dry” period where he was sober but miserable, and the pivotal moment an old-timer stopped him outside a meeting and kept him from walking away.

He explains the difference between feeling good and doing well, and why dark emotional patches can actually mark the biggest periods of growth. The trio break down vague slogans like “work the program” into practical actions. For Dr. John, it means acting rightly in spite of thoughts and feelings: going to meetings, phoning a sponsor, saying prayers, and sticking with the basics even when everything in you wants to bolt.

He offers a simple three-step response to emotional disturbance: freeze, call your sponsor, and pray for the willingness to follow direction. There’s honest talk about ego, lying about sobriety dates, and why “self cannot transform self”. Sponsors, mentors, and old-timers show up as crucial mirrors for people who “can’t read the label on their own jar”.

This is aimed squarely at people in recovery who are tired of chasing constant good feelings and are ready to hear what getting well actually looks like day to day. Where are you still chasing comfort instead of healing?

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