The State of Pokemon Live, Stellar Crown Expansion, and the Theory Behind Copying a DeckThe State of Pokemon Live, Stellar Crown Expansion, and the Theory Behind Copying a Deck
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Corey and Jared chat through the post-Worlds Pokémon Live meta, share early thoughts on the Stellar Crown expansion, and break down the pros and cons of copying decks versus building from scratch. The conversation targets competitive and aspiring players looking to refine their lists and understand current trends.
38:45•8 Sept 2024
Stellar Crown Hype, Pokémon Live Meta Chat, and the Art of Copying Decks
Episode Overview
- Regidrago continues to be heavily played on Pokémon Live, with Lugia, Gardevoir and Lost Box still very present in larger online events.
- Phezzandipiti makes late-game disruption from cards like Iono far less scary, becoming a priority target in many matchups.
- Stellar Crown is framed as a ‘set-up’ release that introduces powerful Terra-focused tools, especially stadiums that expand the bench to eight.
- Newer players are encouraged to try building full 60-card lists from scratch to understand ratios and card roles better.
- More competitive players can safely start from proven 50-card shells taken from top results and then adjust the final slots to suit their style or expected meta.
“This set is the appetizer, Jared. You got to the restaurant, you ordered your Stellar Crown appetizer, leading up to the entrée that’s coming.”
Get ready to be moved by real-life accounts of competitive play as Corey and Jared geek out over the current Pokémon TCG meta, all through the relaxed, banter-heavy style that regulars have come to expect. Aimed squarely at players who grind Pokémon Live, prep for Regionals, or just want to build better decks, this chat mixes meta breakdowns with practical lessons on how to think about lists.
Fresh off Worlds, they break down what’s actually winning on Pokémon Live: Regidrago still ruling the ladder, Lugia and Gardevoir staying relevant, and Lost Box stubbornly hanging around. They note that Iron Thorns isn’t dominating like some expected, and that the variety at the top makes things feel surprisingly healthy. If you’ve been wondering whether Worlds was a one-off or a sign of a longer trend, you’ll get a grounded snapshot here. From there, they zoom out to Stellar Crown.
Corey calls it “the appetizer”, a foundation set that introduces huge bench expansion via Terra-focused cards rather than instantly reshaping everything. They reminisce about older formats with Sky Field and Zoroark, and talk through how having eight bench slots again could change how people use support Pokémon like Phezzandipiti, Squawkabilly and Lumineon. The educational segment, “50 vs 60”, is where newer and intermediate players will probably get the most value.
The pair compare building a full 60-card list from scratch versus starting from an established meta list and tweaking 10 or so cards. They suggest brand-new TCG players should try building from zero to really learn ratios, while more competitive players can happily copy strong lists from event results and then adjust for their local meta or playstyle.
If you’ve ever wondered whether you ‘cheat’ by copying decks, or how to make sense of the current online format before a major event, this chat might be exactly what you need. Which type are you: a 50-card tweaker or a full-on 60-card architect?

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