Transformation (Full Episode)Transformation (Full Episode)
Relational Recovery
Wes Thompson and Austin Hill discuss transformation in addiction recovery, focusing on self-change through integrating mind, body, and spirit.
39:45•23 Feb 2026
Transformation: A Journey of Self-Change
Episode Overview
- True transformation involves integrating mind, body, and spirit.
- Focus on personal change rather than changing others.
- Align desires with healthier alternatives for sustainable recovery.
- Recovery is a non-linear journey that requires honesty and humility.
- Long-term change requires consistent effort and self-reflection.
“"If all we do is focus in on the behaviour we want to change, we often don't change."”
Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? Wes Thompson and Austin Hill dive into the transformative process of recovery, especially for men at The Refuge. They explore the idea that true change is more than just altering behaviours—it's about integrating the mind, body, and spirit. Through a blend of Christian spirituality and psychology, they discuss the importance of aligning one's desires with healthier alternatives.
Both hosts stress the significance of personal transformation over trying to change others, offering listeners a fresh perspective on dealing with addiction. With a mix of light-hearted banter and serious insights, this episode promises to challenge your views on what it means to truly transform. Whether you're just starting your recovery journey or have been on the path for a while, this episode offers valuable reflections on self-growth and personal change.
So, what does transformation mean to you, and how can you begin your journey today?
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