Growing Up in the Shadow of Addiction: Mackenzie Phillips and Owen Elliott Kugel Share Their Stories
Sometimes we need to talk about forgiveness in this country. I think people misrepresent and misunderstand the mechanism of it.
Ever wondered what it’s like to grow up with famous parents who are also battling addiction? In this episode of 'This Life #YOULIVE', Dr. Drew Pinsky, Bob Forrest, and Mike Catherwood sit down with Mackenzie Phillips and Owen Elliott Kugel to explore this very question. Both Mackenzie and Owen come from legendary musical backgrounds—Mackenzie is the daughter of John Phillips from The Mamas and The Papas, while Owen is the daughter of Mama Cass.
But their childhoods were far from glamorous. Raised in the chaotic world of rock and roll, they share how addiction shaped their lives from a young age. Mackenzie, now running the Breathe Life Healing Center in Hollywood, opens up about her journey from addiction to recovery and how she now helps others navigate their own struggles.
Owen and Mackenzie dive into their personal experiences of growing up amidst drug abuse, discussing the dark side of the music industry and the toll it took on their families. One particularly moving part of the conversation centers on forgiveness. Mackenzie talks about how crucial forgiveness is in the recovery process, saying, 'Sometimes we need to talk about forgiveness in this country. I think people misrepresent and misunderstand the mechanism of it'.
They also touch on various therapy methods used in addiction treatment, like internal family systems and dialectical behavioral therapy, highlighting how different approaches can be effective for different people. The episode wraps up with a practical tip: the importance of staying hydrated during recovery, with a nod to a product they recommend called Hydrolyte. This episode offers a raw and heartfelt look into the complexities of addiction, making it a must-listen for anyone affected by this issue.