"You’re the One You’ve Been Waiting For" with Melanie Gulde"You’re the One You’ve Been Waiting For" with Melanie Gulde
Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
Melanie Gulde returns to the podcast to talk with Allen and Thom about the progress and promise of Divided Sky in Vermont, which isn’t a rehab but a residential recovery retreat, reasonably priced. She discusses meeting Phish’s Trey Anastasio, who worked with her in recovery to form the center’s curriculum, which lists “Emotional Sobriety 101” as a foundational text. More about Divided Sky: https://dividedsky.org Patrick’s “Outside Issues” podcast, about the intersection of recovery and social justice: https://www.youtube.com/@outsideissuespodcast https://pod.link/1826305552 Learn more about Joe C., Secular AA and Rebellion Dogs here: https://rebelliondogspublishing.com Follow us on social media. Podcast Twitter: @EmSobrietyPod Instagram: thomrutledge2 Joe C. Twitter: @Rebellion_Dogs Friendly Circle Berlin Workshop Group meets every Monday @ 7:30pm (Berlin), 6:30pm (Ireland & UK), 1:30pm EST, 10:30am PST Zoom Link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5505019905 Allen’s book, 12 Essential Insights for Emotional Sobriety: https://www.amazon.com/12-Essential-Insights-Emotional-Sobriety/dp/1955415129/ Join Allen & Thom at our Thursday night, 7pm PST Zoom meeting on Emotional Sobriety and the Steps (login information below): https://zoom.us/j/330149513 Password: 375986 For our ongoing workshop video series on Emotional Sobriety and the 12 Steps, visit our YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHEM2-kqLkfp3I4c0jy-X-g Also, please join our “Emotional Sobriety and Recovery” FB Group at the following link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/120450976662519 We’d love to stay in touch in between meetings. We appreciate feedback! Contact Patrick, our producer, at pndirective4@gmail.com for any questions or comments.
34:44•4 Nov 2025
Empowering Recovery: Melanie Gulde on Emotional Sobriety
Episode Overview
- Divided Sky Retreat focuses on empowering guests rather than traditional treatment.
- Emotional sobriety is central to the retreat's recovery approach.
- The retreat offers a unique blend of 12-step programmes and holistic care.
- Laughter and community are integral to the healing process.
- Personal responsibility is emphasised as a key to recovery.
“"You're the one you've been waiting for."”
What makes a recovery story truly inspiring? Join Melanie Gulde as she shares the unique approach of Divided Sky, a residential recovery retreat in Vermont. Unlike traditional rehabs, Divided Sky offers a holistic environment where emotional sobriety takes centre stage. Co-founded with musician Trey Anastasio, the retreat focuses on empowering individuals to take charge of their recovery journey.
Melanie talks about how the retreat's foundation is built on the 12-step programme and emotional sobriety principles, helping guests uncover their own potential. The episode also highlights the retreat's innovative methods, such as 'Emotional Sobriety 101', which introduces core concepts to new guests. Melanie emphasises that Divided Sky is not about treating people but empowering them to realise their strengths. The conversation touches on the importance of laughter, community, and personal responsibility in recovery.
If you're curious about how a different approach can make a significant impact, this episode is a must-listen. Could this be the new frontier in addiction recovery?
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