131: Inspire Health Podcast with Dr Jason Loken and guest David Icke

131: Inspire Health Podcast with Dr Jason Loken and guest David Icke

Curious about how others navigate their sobriety journey? This episode of the UK Health Radio Podcast shares a very different angle on trauma and healing, as Dr Jason Loken talks with controversial author and speaker David Icke about what he calls "mass trauma" and the deeper consciousness behind it. Rather than focusing on individual coping tools, the conversation stretches out to the idea that humanity as a whole has been traumatised, especially through events in the Covid era.

Icke links this to trauma-based mind control, referencing MKUltra and the way fear and shock can fragment the mind. He argues that many people "simply cannot see the bloody obvious" because they shut down rather than face painful truths. For anyone in recovery, there’s a striking overlap: Icke keeps returning to the power of perception and choice.

He shares that years of public ridicule "could have traumatised" him, but he chose instead to see it as part of speaking his truth. He suggests that fear is always a choice, and that the fear of death sits at the root of much anxiety and control.

A big chunk of the chat focuses on Wetiko – a term from Cree tradition that he describes as a kind of parasite or virus of the mind that feeds on fear, selfishness and disconnection. The host links this to earlier discussions on shamanism, noting that "the way out is to name it". Once people recognise Wetiko as an influence, Icke says, "it loses its power over you" because it is no longer hidden in the subconscious.

If you're interested in how collective fear, media narratives and spiritual perspective might affect healing from trauma and addiction, this conversation gives plenty to chew on. How might changing your perception of fear change your recovery story?