172: Homeopathy Health with Atiq Ahmad Bhatti & Naila Cheema - Episode 172172: Homeopathy Health with Atiq Ahmad Bhatti & Naila Cheema - Episode 172
UK Health Radio Podcast
Hosts Atiq Ahmad Bhatti and Naila Cheema talk with Dr. Massimo Mangialavori and Tomomi Miyakawa about pain, grief and how homeopathy works with the individuality of suffering. The conversation covers chronic and emotional pain, early-life trauma, and upcoming teaching on these themes for practitioners.
45:42•9 Jul 2026
Pain, Grief and the Language of Suffering with Dr. Massimo Mangialavori
Episode Overview
- Pain is approached as a deeply individual experience, with the quality and description of pain often more important than its intensity.
- Homeopathy looks beyond the physical body to the person’s broader life story, emotional history and patterns of suffering.
- Some people can richly describe their pain, while others, especially with early or severe trauma, may have almost no words for it.
- Grief and loss are highlighted as major sources of overwhelming pain, with far more homeopathic possibilities than the few commonly used remedies.
- Upcoming in-person seminars and a free webinar will expand on extreme suffering, grief and the denial of pain from a homeopathic perspective.
““Pain very often is the first experience that makes two people meeting each other.””
What can we learn from those who have battled pain in every sense of the word? This episode of the UK Health Radio Podcast’s *Homeopathy Health* show brings together hosts Atiq Ahmad Bhatti and Naila Cheema with renowned Italian doctor and homeopath Dr. Massimo Mangialavori and London-based homeopath Tomomi (Tamumi) Miyakawa for a rich, wide-ranging conversation on pain, grief and human experience.
The focus is homeopathy’s approach to pain management, but you’ll quickly see this isn’t just about aches and symptoms. Massimo talks about pain as a meeting point between two people, noting that “pain very often is the first experience that makes two people meeting each other” – one suffering, one hoping to help.
He contrasts the usual 1–10 pain scale with homeopathy’s interest in how pain feels, where it sits, and the words a person can (or can’t) find to describe it. The discussion moves through chronic pain, coma states, music, childhood trauma and what Massimo calls “protopathic pains” – intense sufferings that began so early or so deeply that they can’t easily be put into words.
Tomomi and the hosts reflect on how some people can describe pain in vivid detail, while others “just say it hurts” or even deny their suffering entirely, almost like sealing it inside an emotional cyst. For practitioners and people in recovery alike, there’s a strong message about individuality: the same diagnosis can hide very different inner worlds.
The team also talk about upcoming seminars and a free webinar where Massimo will teach more on grief, loss and denial of pain, all through a homeopathic lens. Anyone interested in pain, trauma, resilience and how homeopathy tries to meet the person behind the symptoms will find plenty to think about here. Could understanding the *language* of pain be the key to helping more people heal?

Do you want to link to this podcast?
Get the buttons here!
More From This Show
The latest episodes from the same podcast.
