1st Lady Of Recovery Kathryn Burgum

1st Lady Of Recovery Kathryn Burgum

Addict II Athlete Podcast

North Dakota’s First Lady, Kathryn Burgum, shares her long-term recovery from alcohol, from teenage depression and blackout drinking to a pivotal moment asking for help. She explains how openly talking about addiction as a disease, supported by peer networks and gratitude, can reduce stigma and offer hope to others.

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35:5718 Oct 2022

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From Secret Struggle to First Lady: Kathryn Burgum on Recovery and Stigma

Episode Overview

  • Addiction can develop even in seemingly “normal” families and is closely tied to untreated mental health issues like depression and anxiety.
  • Repeated relapses may be part of the process; reaching out to another person when the urge to drink hits can break the pattern.
  • Gratitude work can shift a person out of constant victim thinking and support long-term recovery.
  • Openly talking about addiction as a disease, rather than a moral failing, helps reduce shame and stigma in communities.
  • Peer support specialists and lived-experience mentors are vital for reaching rural areas and making help more accessible.
"The fastest, cheapest, easiest way to eliminate shame and stigma is just to talk about it."

What drives someone to seek a life without alcohol? This conversation between Coach Blu Robinson and North Dakota’s First Lady, Kathryn Burgum, gives a refreshingly honest look at how one decision on a simple walk changed everything. Kathryn talks about growing up in what many would see as a “normal” family, yet battling depression, anxiety and harsh inner voices that told her she had to be perfect.

Her first drink in high school made those voices disappear, and from there she became a blackout drinker, later choosing a top party university mainly for the drinking culture. She describes being “lucky to be alive”, living as a high-functioning professional who secretly hated the person in the mirror and struggled with untreated depression and suicidal thoughts.

You’ll hear how movement and sport played a part in her life, and how a walk outside became the moment she quietly asked for help from “a power greater than me” – and hasn’t had a drink since. Kathryn shares how repeated relapses eventually gave way to a new pattern: when the thought “I need a drink” appeared, she picked up the phone instead. Surrounded by women with decades of recovery, she learned to lean on gratitude rather than victimhood.

Now, as First Lady, she’s using her story to challenge the idea that addiction is a moral failing, calling it plainly “a brain disease”. She describes the huge relief of publicly saying she’d been in recovery for 15 years, the positive reaction that followed, and how openly talking about addiction has helped reduce stigma in North Dakota.

From peer support programmes to corporate talks and mocktail-friendly events, she pushes for practical change while reminding everyone that simply speaking up can lift shame for someone else. If you’ve ever wondered whether sharing your own story might help someone, this conversation might be the nudge you’ve been waiting for.

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