#334 - How to Be a Pastor Who Counsels: Jacob Gardner (with CJ McMurry)#334 - How to Be a Pastor Who Counsels: Jacob Gardner (with CJ McMurry)
The Addiction Connection Podcast
Jacob Gardner shares his journey from addiction to ministry, offering insights on faith-based counselling and transformation beyond sobriety.
20:05•29 Sept 2025
Jacob Gardner's Journey: Pastoring and Counselling in Addiction Recovery
Episode Overview
- Faith can be a cornerstone in addiction recovery.
- Sobriety should be seen as a byproduct, not the main goal.
- Identity in Christ helps redefine one's life beyond addiction.
- Personal experiences enrich counselling approaches.
- Community engagement is vital for transformative recovery.
“"Does your sin cancel out the blood of Jesus? Does your sin really get to be in front of the resurrection of Jesus Christ?"”
Ever wondered what it takes to counsel those battling addiction while wearing the hat of a pastor? Jacob Gardner shares his fascinating journey in this episode, highlighting the intersection of faith and recovery. He talks about his own struggles with addiction and how his transformation through Christ has shaped his ministry. Alongside CJ McMurry, they discuss the importance of identity and the role it plays in overcoming addiction, stressing that sobriety is just the beginning, not the end goal.
Jacob's unique approach in Montana involves a mix of personal counselling and community engagement, aiming for transformation rather than just sobriety. You'll hear about the challenges and joys of ministering in different contexts, from the bustling church life to intimate one-on-one sessions. Jacob also touches on how his marriage and family life have evolved over time, adding depth to his personal narrative.
This episode is packed with wisdom on how biblical principles can guide those seeking recovery, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in faith-based counselling. If you're curious about how faith can play a pivotal role in addiction recovery, this episode offers plenty of food for thought.

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