450- John R - Thirst Part 2

450- John R - Thirst Part 2

Sober Speak- Alcoholics Anonymous Recovery Interviews

Comedian and author John R shares how 12 significant drinks chart his path from obsessive moderation and despair to AA-based sobriety and a new toolkit for calm. The conversation highlights the mental battle with alcohol, the shock of meeting depression in sobriety, and the idea of choosing the difficulty that leads to peace.

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1:08:2029 May 2026

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John R on Thirst, White Russians and Choosing Your Hard in Sobriety

Episode Overview

  • Alcoholics often spend huge amounts of energy fighting alcohol rather than simply drinking constantly.
  • Moderation attempts, such as switching to weaker drinks, can become the most confusing and mentally unstable periods.
  • Key AA teachings, like the illusion of controlling and enjoying drinking, can clarify the true nature of alcoholism.
  • Sobriety can reveal underlying issues such as depression that were masked by alcohol, requiring new tools and support.
  • Choosing sobriety means choosing a different kind of difficulty, one that can lead to calm and a more peaceful life.
One reason alcohol is so addictive is that it doesn’t quite work.

What remarkable journeys have people faced head-on against addiction? This conversation with John R from Buckinghamshire, England, gives a raw, funny and very relatable look at what happens when alcohol moves from being a treat to becoming "instant everything" – and then stops working. John R, a stand-up comedian, broadcaster and author, talks through his drinking history using the structure of his book *Thirst*, built around 12 specific drinks that map his descent into and then escape from alcoholism.

You’ll hear about his white Russian binge in Australia (yes, including googling whether you can get milk poisoning), his obsession with weak beer as a moderation tactic, and the moment he realised, "I got to a point where I just wanted to die. I wanted to drink until I died." He explains how much energy goes into fighting alcohol – planning around weddings, dinners and flights – rather than simply drinking all day as many assume alcoholics do.

A key turning point comes from the AA Big Book line about ceasing to fight everyone and everything, and the devastating illusion that one day an alcoholic will control and enjoy their drinking. Sobriety doesn’t get a glossy edit here. John talks honestly about discovering he had depression once the booze stopped, the emotional "admin" that comes back in sobriety, and why he describes recovery as a part-time job that has to fit around work and family.

Yet there’s humour, warmth and a steady thread of hope as he shares the toolkit he’s building for calm, and the idea of "choose your hard" – that drinking and sobriety are both difficult, so you might as well choose the difficulty that leads to peace. If you’ve ever tried to moderate, failed dry January, or feel exhausted by the constant mental battle with alcohol, this one might feel uncomfortably familiar – and strangely comforting.

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