Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge

Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery

Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge

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Saturday 17th May 2025

Join Dr. Carl Erik Fisher as he shares his journey through addiction and explores emotional sobriety with hosts Allen Berger and Thom Rutledge.
49 minutes
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Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery
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Allen Berger & Thom Rutledge
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Sobriety Toolkit
Sexual Empowerment & Identity
Mindfulness & Emotional Wellbeing
Creative Recovery Journeys
Financial Health in Recovery
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Exploring Emotional Sobriety with Dr. Carl Erik Fisher

Episode Overview

  • Emotional sobriety involves achieving deeper self-support.
  • Isolation exacerbates addiction; connection aids recovery.
  • Understanding historical perspectives can inform personal recovery.
  • Self-actualisation is key to overcoming emotional dependency.
  • Community and personal stories enrich the recovery process.
"Isolation is the killer in addiction; it's harder to isolate when we create space with each other."
In this engaging episode of Emotional Sobriety: The Next Step in Recovery, Dr. Allen Berger and Thom Rutledge invite Dr. Carl Erik Fisher, an addiction psychiatrist from Columbia University, to discuss the concept of emotional sobriety. Dr. Fisher shares his own tumultuous journey with addiction, recounting how he went from a high-achieving medical student to experiencing a dramatic intervention that changed his life.
His story is a vivid reminder of the complexities of addiction and recovery, blending personal experience with professional insight. Dr. Fisher's book, The Urge: Our History of Addiction, and his podcast, Flourishing After Addiction, aim to make sense of addiction's impact on individuals and society. He explores the importance of community, self-esteem, and the dynamics of recovery through historical and philosophical lenses.
The discussion touches on how addiction can isolate individuals, but also highlights the power of connection and understanding in healing. The episode delves into the idea that emotional sobriety goes beyond simply abstaining from substances; it's about achieving a deeper level of self-support and understanding. Dr. Fisher and the hosts explore how unhealthy dependencies can lead to emotional disturbances and how cultivating emotional sobriety can bring freedom and self-actualisation.
Listeners will find themselves drawn to the honest reflections on recovery, the exploration of historical perspectives, and the engaging anecdotes shared by Dr. Fisher. If you're curious about what emotional sobriety means and how it can be achieved, this episode offers thought-provoking insights that may resonate deeply with anyone on their own journey to recovery.
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