Deep brain stimulationDeep brain stimulation
All In The Mind
Hear about a man who had deep brain stimulation surgery, and who was woken up in the middle of it to answer the surgeon's questions.
28:50•30 Nov 2014
Deep Brain Stimulation, Parkinson’s and the Future of Mental Health Care
Episode Overview
- Deep brain stimulation uses tiny electrodes in the deepest parts of the brain to modulate abnormal activity without destroying tissue.
- Patients like Peter Raymond can be awake during surgery, helping surgeons position probes by moving and speaking in real time.
- DBs can rapidly ease tremor, stiffness and movement problems on the operating table, offering major relief for some Parkinson’s patients.
- Researchers and clinicians are investigating DBs for severe depression, addiction and obsessive compulsive disorder, with early cases showing strong results.
- Legal bans on DBs for psychiatric use in parts of Australia limit access for people with treatment‑resistant conditions, raising ethical and scientific concerns.
“We’re in a position now of not just helping, but we can actually watch human thought.”
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? While this episode isn't about alcohol directly, it digs into something central to addiction, depression and other mental health struggles: the human brain itself. All In The Mind follows Peter Raymond, who’s lived with Parkinson’s disease for over a decade and chose to undergo deep brain stimulation (DBS).
You’ll hear Peter describe, with understated humour, what it was like to be awake while surgeons drilled into his skull and asked him to recite “Mary had a little lamb” to check his facial expression and movement. At one point he jokes that his face contorted "a bit like Jim Carrey", prompting the team to adjust the probe by a couple of millimetres.
Clinical neuroscientist Professor Peter Silburn explains DBs in everyday language, likening the brain to a giant telephone exchange and the electrodes to switches that can "turn that electricity up and down". He’s clear that the exact mechanism isn’t fully understood, but the effects can be dramatic: tremors easing in real time on the operating table, stiffness softening, and people regaining basic functions like feeding and dressing themselves.
The conversation widens out to future possibilities, with DBs already being investigated for addiction, depression, obsessive compulsive disorder and anorexia. Psychiatrist Professor Colleen Liu questions why DBs is banned for psychiatric use in parts of Australia, sharing the story of a young man with severe depression who had to travel to India for treatment and is now well and working. The tone is scientific yet very human, blending clear explanations with lived experience.
If you’re interested in how brain-based treatments might reshape care for conditions from Parkinson’s to addiction and severe depression, this episode raises big questions with real-life stories to match. Could understanding our "deep inner space" change how we think about recovery itself?

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