Ep. 100 - Special Episode With MattEp. 100 - Special Episode With Matt
Supported Sobriety
Katie and Matt reflect on their six-year journey from church recovery meetings to a structured coaching approach for women healing after betrayal. They share how their views on couple versus individual recovery have shifted, why practical boundaries matter, and why they remain committed to speaking openly about pornography and pain despite criticism.
40:45•9 Sept 2026
Why Katie and Matt Are Still Talking About Pornography and Betrayal After 100 Episodes
Episode Overview
- Individual healing usually needs to come before couple-focused work, and wives can feel peaceful even if their husbands still struggle.
- Practical boundaries like filters, restricted device use, and charging phones in another room reduce reliance on willpower in recovery.
- Clear frameworks and methods for betrayal healing help women move from intense pain to feeling whole in a relatively short time.
- Being open and public about pornography struggles can strip away shame, as “sunlight sanitizes all things.”
- Despite heavy stories and online criticism, Katie and Matt remain committed because they see thousands of lives gaining hope and support.
“Your pain isn't going to go away and you're not going to feel better by changing your husband. Everything you want can only come by transforming yourself.”
What drives someone to seek a life without hiding, secrecy, and shame around pornography? Episode 100 of Supported Sobriety brings that question front and centre as Katie Davis sits down with her husband, Matt, to look back on six years of talking publicly about pornography addiction and betrayal. You’ll hear how this podcast began with the two of them sitting in church addiction recovery meetings every Sunday, juggling childcare and sharing days of sobriety, before eventually becoming group facilitators.
Their early episodes were fuelled by raw passion and 12-step-style tools, but very little structure. Katie admits they used to assume, “well it’s worked for us, it probably has to work for other people,” before she later built clear frameworks for women’s healing. A big theme here is shifting from couple-focused healing to individual work.
Katie now believes the wife’s personal recovery needs to come first, saying that couples therapy straight after disclosure “does not work” for most and that women can feel peaceful and confident even if their husbands are still struggling.
Matt adds his own angle on long-term recovery, stressing simple physical boundaries like charging his phone in another room and using filters so “you make a decision one time and never have to make it again.” The conversation doesn’t shy away from the hard bits: the emotional weight of coaching women through their deepest pain, the hundreds of hate comments on social media, and family members who were upset when they first went public. Yet their commitment remains strong.
Matt shares, “sunlight sanitizes all things,” describing how having his worst mistakes out in the open has stripped away shame. Katie talks about being “called” to this work and how thousands of personal stories from both men and women keep that fire burning. If you’re sitting in quiet pain around pornography and betrayal, could hearing from a couple who have lived it, and still care this much, be the next kind step you give yourself?
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