Ep227 – Recovery Rumble: Amber vs. Matt
Ep227 – Recovery Rumble: Amber vs. Matt

Untoxicated Podcast

In this corner, making her third appearance on the Untoxicated Podcast, is Master Addiction Counselor, star and host of the Put the Shovel Down YouTube channel, the one, the only, the fabulous Amber Hollingsworth. And in this corner,

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1:19:39•22 Jan 2024

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Untoxicated Podcast

Matt & Sheri Salis

Sheri and Matt Salis just wanted a normal life – normal marriage, normal careers, a normal house and happy kids. Instead, they lived a life of lies and terror as they struggled with Matt’s alcoholism. While their experience sounds rare, with over 15 millions problem drinkers in America, their alcoholic marriage was all too normal. Matt has been writing about their experiences in alcoholism and recovery for years. On the Untoxicated Podcast, Sheri and Matt talk about it, too. No subjects are off limits as the couple discusses the trauma of active addiction, the pain of early recovery, the destruction and rebuilding of trust, and the impact on their intimate relationship. If you love an alcoholic, the disease will terrorize your relationship. We hope you’ll listen and find healing in our shared stories. For more support from Sheri and Matt, check out their Echoes of Recovery program providing connection and healing for the loved ones of alcoholics.

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Family Ties and Recovery: Amber Hollingsworth vs. Matt Salis

Episode Overview

The episode presents a candid and unfiltered discussion about the challenges and complexities of supporting a loved one through addiction and recovery.
Listeners gain valuable insights from the perspectives of both a professional addiction counselor and a person in recovery.
The conversation touches on topics such as detachment, intimacy, attachment styles, and the impact of addiction on family dynamics.
Personal anecdotes, reflections, and expert opinions provide a comprehensive exploration of the multifaceted dynamics involved in the recovery process.
The episode offers a wealth of knowledge and understanding for anyone navigating similar experiences.

“One of the things I like most about what Esther Perel says is attraction isn't about looks when we first get together. It isn't about looks. It isn't about, you know, I don't know. And what I have found in our relationship and what we found working with other people is when the person suffering from addiction reaches that point in recovery where they're performing at work and they're performing with the kids and they're performing in the community.”

Get ready for a lively debate on the Untoxicated Podcast! In this episode, Matt Salis goes head-to-head with Master Addiction Counselor Amber Hollingsworth, known for her 'Put the Shovel Down' YouTube channel. Sheri Salis steps in as the referee as they tackle one of the most complicated aspects of addiction recovery: the role of the family. With seven rounds of spirited discussion, Amber and Matt dig into the tough questions about support and detachment.

Should families be more involved, or is stepping back sometimes the best way to help? How do intimacy and attachment styles shift during recovery? This episode doesn't shy away from the hard truths and offers a blend of personal stories and professional insights. Whether you're in recovery or supporting someone who is, this conversation is packed with perspectives that will resonate deeply. Tune in for a raw, honest look at the dynamics that make or break the recovery journey.

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