Episode 1144: Can We Really Come To Believe? (Step 2)

Episode 1144: Can We Really Come To Believe? (Step 2)

Curious about how others steer their sobriety journey? This chat between Monty Dale Meyer (the Monty’man) and Tom Williams centres on Step Two: "Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity," and what that actually looks like day-to-day. You’ll hear Tom talk about their "Shift" workshop at Big Bear Lake, where they ask a bold question: have you moved from "recovering" to "recovered"?

With humour and skits (including characters Mary, who feels stuck and "recovering", and Maudie, who lives as "recovered"), they show how people can stall after the steps and how to get moving again. The conversation keeps circling back to the nature of a higher power.

Tom pushes past light bulbs and doorknobs with the line: "If your higher power isn’t the highest power, then you better get another higher power." Both men stress that Step Two doesn’t demand perfect faith; it starts with admitting personal powerlessness and being open to something greater. Belief, they say, comes from experience – conscious contact and then ongoing spiritual awakening.

Monty shares a touching story about sending money to a struggling friend and realising how much his heart has changed. That kind of quiet, practical generosity is held up as evidence of "good fruit" in recovery. Tom builds on this by suggesting that a daily Step Ten isn’t only about spotting mistakes, but about examining the fruit of our actions – good fruit gets lovingly pruned so we can grow, bad fruit points to issues at the root.

If you’re wrestling with the idea of God in recovery, worried you’re not "strong" enough spiritually, or stuck on that recovering/recovered wording, this episode offers straight-talking reassurance, plenty of scripture references, and a warm reminder that "with God, all things are possible." Ready to question what you believe and maybe take one more small step towards a new life?