Duane Osterlind, LMFT

The Addicted Mind Podcast

Duane Osterlind, LMFT

  • Episode 352: Open MBSR and the Future of Mindfulness with Mo Edjlali

Episode 352: Open MBSR and the Future of Mindfulness with Mo Edjlali

Monday 22nd September 2025

Mo Edjlali explores the benefits and pitfalls of mindfulness in addiction recovery with host Duane Osterlind.
42 minutes
Inspiring
Informative
Honest
Eye-opening
Transformative

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The Addicted Mind Podcast
Author:
Duane Osterlind, LMFT
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Understanding Addiction & Recovery
Sobriety Toolkit
Recovery from Trauma
Family Recovery from Addiction
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Mindfulness: A Double-Edged Sword?

Episode Overview

  • Mindfulness can be both beneficial and harmful when misapplied.
  • Community-based mindfulness offers more depth than solitary practice.
  • Commercialisation of mindfulness can lead to ethical concerns.
  • Open dialogue is essential for a balanced mindfulness approach.
  • Mindfulness should be free from religious entanglements.
"I have the power within myself to fundamentally change in these really deep ways I just didn't know was possible."
How do people find strength in their journey to sobriety? Mo Edjlali, founder of The Mindful Leader, joins host Duane Osterlind in a compelling discussion on The Addicted Mind Podcast. Mo shares his journey from a high-pressure tech entrepreneur to a mindfulness advocate, highlighting the transformative power of mindfulness when used correctly. But he doesn't stop there; Mo candidly addresses the less-discussed potential pitfalls of mindfulness practices, such as the harm caused by overuse and misapplication of guided meditations.
Mo's story is a rollercoaster of highs and lows. From being the face of a successful tech company to hitting rock bottom during the economic downturn, he realised that his leadership style was unsustainable. This led him to explore mindfulness, where he discovered a new way to perceive reality, without any spiritual strings attached. His personal experiences have driven him to critically evaluate the modern mindfulness movement, questioning its entanglement with Buddhism and the commercialisation of spiritual practices.
Mo also talks about the importance of community in mindfulness practices, arguing that solitary meditation can lead to a one-dimensional experience. He advocates for a collective approach, fostering open dialogue and collaboration within the mindfulness community. Mo's work with Mindful Leader aims to create a more transparent and ethical framework for mindfulness, free from the influences of celebrity culture and commercial interests.
If you're curious about how mindfulness can aid in addiction recovery or if you're looking for a fresh perspective on this widely popular practice, this episode is a must-listen. Are you ready to challenge your perceptions and embrace a more balanced approach to mindfulness?
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